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Sun May 29, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:
22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm systems |
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Are you an old or will you be a new VICTIM of wireless alarm
systems wrong advertisements and sellers talk?
Wireless alarm systems fail during Radio Frequency Interferences (RFI)
without warning to the owner or CS and nothing can prevent it.
TEST YOURS if you have one, get a FCC/CE approved transmitter...
:For all frequency types of wireless alarm systems:
www.mipot.com
http://www.aurel.it/
www.rfsolutions.co.uk
OR
Ask "so called" professionals to explain you why wireless alarm
systems are reliable and how they avoid RFI, the well known nuisances
of low power radio wave reception.
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mikey
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Mon May 30, 2005 12:36 am Post subject:
Re: 22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm sys |
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<-pull@shoot> wrote in message
news:2rki915vkrlhpe4rlplcui3iipnn8n6uc2@4ax.com...
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Are you an old or will you be a new VICTIM of wireless alarm
systems wrong advertisements and sellers talk?
Wireless alarm systems fail during Radio Frequency Interferences (RFI)
without warning to the owner or CS and nothing can prevent it.
TEST YOURS if you have one, get a FCC/CE approved transmitter...
:For all frequency types of wireless alarm systems:
www.mipot.com
http://www.aurel.it/
www.rfsolutions.co.uk
OR
Ask "so called" professionals to explain you why wireless alarm
systems are reliable and how they avoid RFI, the well known nuisances
of low power radio wave reception.
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Interference is avoided by repeatingly sending the signal across an FM band
comparable in "width" to the FM band on your radio. That's a lot of
frequencies to jam or otherwise have interference. One of the multiple
signals is
bound to get through and it only takes one.
Because there's no wire (or EOL), the transmitter has to send check-in
signals
to ensure it is able to report an alarm (supervision).
If the receiver doesn't see the check-in signals, it complains to the poor
sap carrying
the pager.
So, it seems we're doing the best we can where it's unrealistic to use wire,
Paul.
If you have a better idea, I'd like to hear it. |
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Mon May 30, 2005 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: 22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm sys |
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 19:08:06 -0400, "mikey" <someone@microsoft.com>
wrote:
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Interference is avoided by repeatingly sending the signal across an FM band
comparable in "width" to the FM band on your radio.
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Oh yes? Where do you have that comparable frequency band with?
| Quote: | That's a lot of
frequencies to jam or otherwise have interference. One of the multiple
signals is bound to get through and it only takes one.
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How is it possible to tell such a noncense..
| Quote: | Because there's no wire (or EOL), the transmitter has to send check-in
signals to ensure it is able to report an alarm (supervision).
If the receiver doesn't see the check-in signals, it complains to the poor
sap carrying the pager.
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look at my next post:
24. RF Interference detection, does it exists on Wireless Alarm
Systems?
| Quote: | So, it seems we're doing the best we can where it's unrealistic to use wire,
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Of course "the best you can"... No way you can avoid RFI.
| Quote: | If you have a better idea, I'd like to hear it.
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You can't do better, you can't avoid RFI.
RFI muzzle wireless alarm systems and can't be avoided nor detected
in a reasonable time span to warn about possible intruder alarm
jamming and avoid huge false alarms.
Good attempt to flood the fish. Full stop.
| Quote: | -pull@shoot> wrote in message
Are you an old or will you be a new VICTIM of wireless alarm
systems wrong advertisements and sellers talk?
Wireless alarm systems fail during Radio Frequency Interferences (RFI)
without warning to the owner or CS and nothing can prevent it.
TEST YOURS if you have one, get a FCC/CE approved transmitter...
:For all frequency types of wireless alarm systems:
www.mipot.com
http://www.aurel.it/
www.rfsolutions.co.uk
OR
Ask "so called" professionals to explain you why wireless alarm
systems are reliable and how they avoid RFI, the well known nuisances
of low power radio wave reception. |
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Jim Rojas
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Mon May 30, 2005 6:16 am Post subject:
Re: 22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm sys |
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Mikey, don't waste your time with this guy. He has been polluting Usenet for
years with his endless dribble. He will never understand. All we can do is
sit back and let the clown do his dance routine.
Jim Rojas
"mikey" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:auOdnVhl7Oqm0QffRVn-tw@rogers.com...
| Quote: | -pull@shoot> wrote in message
news:2rki915vkrlhpe4rlplcui3iipnn8n6uc2@4ax.com...
Are you an old or will you be a new VICTIM of wireless alarm
systems wrong advertisements and sellers talk?
Wireless alarm systems fail during Radio Frequency Interferences (RFI)
without warning to the owner or CS and nothing can prevent it.
TEST YOURS if you have one, get a FCC/CE approved transmitter...
:For all frequency types of wireless alarm systems:
www.mipot.com
http://www.aurel.it/
www.rfsolutions.co.uk
OR
Ask "so called" professionals to explain you why wireless alarm
systems are reliable and how they avoid RFI, the well known nuisances
of low power radio wave reception.
Interference is avoided by repeatingly sending the signal across an FM
band
comparable in "width" to the FM band on your radio. That's a lot of
frequencies to jam or otherwise have interference. One of the multiple
signals is
bound to get through and it only takes one.
Because there's no wire (or EOL), the transmitter has to send check-in
signals
to ensure it is able to report an alarm (supervision).
If the receiver doesn't see the check-in signals, it complains to the poor
sap carrying
the pager.
So, it seems we're doing the best we can where it's unrealistic to use
wire,
Paul.
If you have a better idea, I'd like to hear it.
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Mon May 30, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject:
Re: 22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm sys |
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On Mon, 30 May 2005 01:16:41 GMT, "Jim Rojas" <jrojas@tech-man.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | Mikey, don't waste your time with this guy. He has been polluting Usenet for
years with his endless dribble. He will never understand. All we can do is
sit back and let the clown do his dance routine.
Jim Rojas
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Easy to say nothing, you where never able to oppose something to what
i say, poor jimmy boy.
The desire to not understand wireless alarm techniques
is far less intelligent than
the inability to understand them
Do you like to do business poor jimmy boy?
Invent the RFI bit bucket and sell it to the manufacturers, they will
pay a lot for that.
| Quote: | "mikey" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:auOdnVhl7Oqm0QffRVn-tw@rogers.com...
-pull@shoot> wrote in message
news:2rki915vkrlhpe4rlplcui3iipnn8n6uc2@4ax.com...
Are you an old or will you be a new VICTIM of wireless alarm
systems wrong advertisements and sellers talk?
Wireless alarm systems fail during Radio Frequency Interferences (RFI)
without warning to the owner or CS and nothing can prevent it.
TEST YOURS if you have one, get a FCC/CE approved transmitter...
:For all frequency types of wireless alarm systems:
www.mipot.com
http://www.aurel.it/
www.rfsolutions.co.uk
OR
Ask "so called" professionals to explain you why wireless alarm
systems are reliable and how they avoid RFI, the well known nuisances
of low power radio wave reception.
Interference is avoided by repeatingly sending the signal across an FM
band
comparable in "width" to the FM band on your radio. That's a lot of
frequencies to jam or otherwise have interference. One of the multiple
signals is
bound to get through and it only takes one.
Because there's no wire (or EOL), the transmitter has to send check-in
signals
to ensure it is able to report an alarm (supervision).
If the receiver doesn't see the check-in signals, it complains to the poor
sap carrying
the pager.
So, it seems we're doing the best we can where it's unrealistic to use
wire,
Paul.
If you have a better idea, I'd like to hear it.
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mikey
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Tue May 31, 2005 12:36 am Post subject:
Re: 22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm sys |
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Ya, I know, Jim. I tried to reason with this idiot a couple of years ago (as
did you, if memory serves :-) and quickly realized it was futile.
However, every now and then I think we have to respond 'just for trhe
record' in case some hapless reader really does believe we won't take him
on.
But I appreciate the sentiment... I'll just go back to banging my head
against a wall. I'd like to introduce this asshole to some folks who were
VERY grateful that they had a portable transmitter that not only worked when
they needed it but may very well have saved their life (or considerable
anguish, to say the least)
"Jim Rojas" <jrojas@tech-man.com> wrote in message
news:ZPtme.12713$tv3.4788@trnddc06...
| Quote: | Mikey, don't waste your time with this guy. He has been polluting Usenet
for
years with his endless dribble. He will never understand. All we can do is
sit back and let the clown do his dance routine.
Jim Rojas
"mikey" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:auOdnVhl7Oqm0QffRVn-tw@rogers.com...
-pull@shoot> wrote in message
news:2rki915vkrlhpe4rlplcui3iipnn8n6uc2@4ax.com...
Are you an old or will you be a new VICTIM of wireless alarm
systems wrong advertisements and sellers talk?
Wireless alarm systems fail during Radio Frequency Interferences (RFI)
without warning to the owner or CS and nothing can prevent it.
TEST YOURS if you have one, get a FCC/CE approved transmitter...
:For all frequency types of wireless alarm systems:
www.mipot.com
http://www.aurel.it/
www.rfsolutions.co.uk
OR
Ask "so called" professionals to explain you why wireless alarm
systems are reliable and how they avoid RFI, the well known nuisances
of low power radio wave reception.
Interference is avoided by repeatingly sending the signal across an FM
band
comparable in "width" to the FM band on your radio. That's a lot of
frequencies to jam or otherwise have interference. One of the multiple
signals is
bound to get through and it only takes one.
Because there's no wire (or EOL), the transmitter has to send check-in
signals
to ensure it is able to report an alarm (supervision).
If the receiver doesn't see the check-in signals, it complains to the
poor
sap carrying
the pager.
So, it seems we're doing the best we can where it's unrealistic to use
wire,
Paul.
If you have a better idea, I'd like to hear it.
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Mark Leuck
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Tue May 31, 2005 6:08 am Post subject:
Re: 22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm sys |
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"mikey" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:IcCdnT1vI4yYBQbfRVn-3A@rogers.com...
| Quote: | Ya, I know, Jim. I tried to reason with this idiot a couple of years ago
(as
did you, if memory serves :-) and quickly realized it was futile.
However, every now and then I think we have to respond 'just for trhe
record' in case some hapless reader really does believe we won't take him
on.
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My guess is it's pretty easy for some hapless reader to realize he's full of
shit |
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R.H.Campbell
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Tue May 31, 2005 7:09 am Post subject:
Re: 22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm sys |
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I'm not so sure Mark. Pardon my cynicism, but from what I have seen about
the general lack of knowledge (and sophistication) of some consumers when it
comes to security situations and decisions in general, I think there very
well could be some readers that think this nutcase actually makes some
sense.
RHC
"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:GrOdnYD4jbflJAbfRVn-pg@comcast.com...
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"mikey" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:IcCdnT1vI4yYBQbfRVn-3A@rogers.com...
Ya, I know, Jim. I tried to reason with this idiot a couple of years ago
(as
did you, if memory serves :-) and quickly realized it was futile.
However, every now and then I think we have to respond 'just for trhe
record' in case some hapless reader really does believe we won't take him
on.
My guess is it's pretty easy for some hapless reader to realize he's full
of
shit
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Tue May 31, 2005 8:22 am Post subject:
Re: 22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm sys |
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 19:08:06 -0400, "mikey" <someone@microsoft.com>
wrote:
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Interference is avoided by repeatingly sending the signal across an FM band
comparable in "width" to the FM band on your radio.
|
Oh yes? Where do you have that comparable frequency band with?
| Quote: | That's a lot of
frequencies to jam or otherwise have interference. One of the multiple
signals is bound to get through and it only takes one.
|
How is it possible to tell such a noncense..
| Quote: | Because there's no wire (or EOL), the transmitter has to send check-in
signals to ensure it is able to report an alarm (supervision).
If the receiver doesn't see the check-in signals, it complains to the poor
sap carrying the pager.
|
look at my next post:
24. RF Interference detection, does it exists on Wireless Alarm
Systems?
| Quote: | So, it seems we're doing the best we can where it's unrealistic to use wire,
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Of course "the best you can"... No way you can avoid RFI.
| Quote: | If you have a better idea, I'd like to hear it.
|
You can't do better, you can't avoid RFI.
RFI muzzle wireless alarm systems and can't be avoided nor detected
in a reasonable time span to warn about possible intruder alarm
jamming and avoid huge false alarms.
Good attempt to flood the fish. Full stop.
| Quote: | -pull@shoot> wrote in message
Are you an old or will you be a new VICTIM of wireless alarm
systems wrong advertisements and sellers talk?
Wireless alarm systems fail during Radio Frequency Interferences (RFI)
without warning to the owner or CS and nothing can prevent it.
TEST YOURS if you have one, get a FCC/CE approved transmitter...
:For all frequency types of wireless alarm systems:
www.mipot.com
http://www.aurel.it/
www.rfsolutions.co.uk
OR
Ask "so called" professionals to explain you why wireless alarm
systems are reliable and how they avoid RFI, the well known nuisances
of low power radio wave reception. |
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Mark Leuck
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Tue May 31, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:
Re: 22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm sys |
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"R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@homemetal.com> wrote in message
news:xLGdnQ7eOP3WWgbfRVn-qA@rogers.com...
| Quote: | I'm not so sure Mark. Pardon my cynicism, but from what I have seen about
the general lack of knowledge (and sophistication) of some consumers when
it
comes to security situations and decisions in general, I think there very
well could be some readers that think this nutcase actually makes some
sense.
RHC
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Sat Jul 02, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject:
Re: 22. Are you an OLD or a NEW VICTIM of wireless alarm sys |
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 07:35:08 +0200, -pull@shoot wrote:
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Are you an old or will you be a new VICTIM of wireless alarm
systems wrong advertisements and sellers talk?
Wireless alarm systems fail during Radio Frequency Interferences (RFI)
without warning to the owner or CS and nothing can prevent it.
TEST YOURS if you have one, get a FCC/CE approved transmitter...
:For all frequency types of wireless alarm systems:
www.mipot.com
http://www.aurel.it/
www.rfsolutions.co.uk
OR
Ask "so called" professionals to explain you why wireless alarm
systems are reliable and how they avoid RFI, the well known nuisances
of low power radio wave reception. |
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