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Richard
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 5:36 pm Post subject:
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Hi. Someone is damaging the front door and I think it's good to install
a surveillance camera to record whover is doing it.
I would have thought that what is needed is a tiny wireless camera
mounted on the inside of the door, looking through a wide-eyed lens.
Problem is recording the video. Ideally you probably want still images
images every say 15 seconds recorded on a HDD, but that's probably
expensive. Next best I suppose is to just set the VCR going whenever
you are out of the house, or in bed.
Can anybody please advize? TIA.
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Richard
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject:
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"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi. Someone is damaging the front door and I think it's good to
install
a surveillance camera to record whover is doing it.
I would have thought that what is needed is a tiny wireless camera
mounted on the inside of the door, looking through a wide-eyed lens.
Problem is recording the video. Ideally you probably want still images
images every say 15 seconds recorded on a HDD, but that's probably
expensive. Next best I suppose is to just set the VCR going whenever
you are out of the house, or in bed.
Can anybody please advize? TIA.
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For 24 hr coverage, I would think use 3 VCR's using 8 hr tape setting,
set to record daily. VCR 1 starts 12pm, VCR starts 8am, VCR 3 starts
4pm. All automatically rewind the tape of course when tape comes to the
end. Little hassle. |
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BigWallop
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject:
Re: What set up for surveillance camera? |
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"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
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"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
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Hi. Someone is damaging the front door and I think it's good to
install
a surveillance camera to record whover is doing it.
I would have thought that what is needed is a tiny wireless camera
mounted on the inside of the door, looking through a wide-eyed lens.
Problem is recording the video. Ideally you probably want still images
images every say 15 seconds recorded on a HDD, but that's probably
expensive. Next best I suppose is to just set the VCR going whenever
you are out of the house, or in bed.
Can anybody please advize? TIA.
For 24 hr coverage, I would think use 3 VCR's using 8 hr tape setting,
set to record daily. VCR 1 starts 12pm, VCR starts 8am, VCR 3 starts
4pm. All automatically rewind the tape of course when tape comes to the
end. Little hassle.
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Just buy a sign that says "24 hour Video Surveillance in Operation" and the
damage to your door should stop. A standard video camera set behind a
window is also a good way of catching bandits when you're out or in bed.
But a visual deterrent like signs is always the best way.
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Richard
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject:
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"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
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"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
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Hi. Someone is damaging the front door and I think it's good to
install
a surveillance camera to record whover is doing it.
I would have thought that what is needed is a tiny wireless camera
mounted on the inside of the door, looking through a wide-eyed
lens.
Problem is recording the video. Ideally you probably want still
images
images every say 15 seconds recorded on a HDD, but that's probably
expensive. Next best I suppose is to just set the VCR going
whenever
you are out of the house, or in bed.
Can anybody please advize? TIA.
For 24 hr coverage, I would think use 3 VCR's using 8 hr tape
setting,
set to record daily. VCR 1 starts 12pm, VCR starts 8am, VCR 3 starts
4pm. All automatically rewind the tape of course when tape comes to
the
end. Little hassle.
Just buy a sign that says "24 hour Video Surveillance in Operation"
and the
damage to your door should stop. A standard video camera set behind a
window is also a good way of catching bandits when you're out or in
bed.
But a visual deterrent like signs is always the best way.
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Noted about the sign and use of standard video camera, thanks. I have
a camera sitting around somewhere.
Be nice to catch them!!. :c)
Biggest problem I see is if you use a mini cam thingy is the light. Most
damage ocurs at night. Best of course to have some illumination. I
think the only way to get 24 hr coverage cheaply would be to get 3
VCR's. You can buy them for about £40 new these days. You would have to
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Les George
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject:
Re: What set up for surveillance camera? |
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Hi
We use a camera that is disguised as a door spyhole, it has a very wide
angle of view & is available in very low light monochrome or colour.
We also use a video capture device that is connected to your computer by usb
port. This comes with software that will allow it to record video only when
it sees movement.
The camera needs to be wired back to the computer with a cable similar to a
telephone wire. Even if you use a wireless system you need to take power to
the camera (12 volts).
A complete system as described above would be £268.00 in monochrome or
£326.00 in colour both & £6.50 P/P.
The images could also be viewed over the Internet.
All prices are + VAT.
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"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
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Hi. Someone is damaging the front door and I think it's good to
install
a surveillance camera to record whover is doing it.
I would have thought that what is needed is a tiny wireless camera
mounted on the inside of the door, looking through a wide-eyed
lens.
Problem is recording the video. Ideally you probably want still
images
images every say 15 seconds recorded on a HDD, but that's probably
expensive. Next best I suppose is to just set the VCR going
whenever
you are out of the house, or in bed.
Can anybody please advize? TIA.
For 24 hr coverage, I would think use 3 VCR's using 8 hr tape
setting,
set to record daily. VCR 1 starts 12pm, VCR starts 8am, VCR 3 starts
4pm. All automatically rewind the tape of course when tape comes to
the
end. Little hassle.
Just buy a sign that says "24 hour Video Surveillance in Operation"
and the
damage to your door should stop. A standard video camera set behind a
window is also a good way of catching bandits when you're out or in
bed.
But a visual deterrent like signs is always the best way.
Noted about the sign and use of standard video camera, thanks. I have
a camera sitting around somewhere.
Be nice to catch them!!. :c)
Biggest problem I see is if you use a mini cam thingy is the light. Most
damage ocurs at night. Best of course to have some illumination. I
think the only way to get 24 hr coverage cheaply would be to get 3
VCR's. You can buy them for about £40 new these days. You would have to
run them on L.P.
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Richard
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:25 pm Post subject:
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"Les George" <les@nospam.baywatchsecurity.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi
We use a camera that is disguised as a door spyhole, it has a very
wide
angle of view & is available in very low light monochrome or colour.
We also use a video capture device that is connected to your computer
by usb
port. This comes with software that will allow it to record video
only when
it sees movement.
The camera needs to be wired back to the computer with a cable similar
to a
telephone wire. Even if you use a wireless system you need to take
power to
the camera (12 volts).
A complete system as described above would be £268.00 in monochrome or
£326.00 in colour both & £6.50 P/P.
The images could also be viewed over the Internet.
All prices are + VAT.
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That makes me wonder whether you can use one VCR. You have a proximity
device control pause, VCR runs when the proximity thingy detects
movement. Anyone ever done that? |
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Les George
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:36 pm Post subject:
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Yes - you can use 1 x domestic vcr, but you need various devices to make it
record when it sees movement.
PIR or motion detector (to sense the intruder)
Video controller (to start video recording for desired time)
Time/Date Generator (essential for prosecution).
Domestic VCR (only certain models are suitable as most have the one button
record feaure that records for 30 mins every time rec is pressed & will not
work).
VCRs are also getting harder to source, you must charge the tapes & worst of
all there is a delay between the sensor sending the record signal & the
video recording.
This usually ends up costing considerably more than the usb device for a
worse system.
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"Les George" <les@nospam.baywatchsecurity.co.uk> wrote in message
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Hi
We use a camera that is disguised as a door spyhole, it has a very
wide
angle of view & is available in very low light monochrome or colour.
We also use a video capture device that is connected to your computer
by usb
port. This comes with software that will allow it to record video
only when
it sees movement.
The camera needs to be wired back to the computer with a cable similar
to a
telephone wire. Even if you use a wireless system you need to take
power to
the camera (12 volts).
A complete system as described above would be £268.00 in monochrome or
£326.00 in colour both & £6.50 P/P.
The images could also be viewed over the Internet.
All prices are + VAT.
That makes me wonder whether you can use one VCR. You have a proximity
device control pause, VCR runs when the proximity thingy detects
movement. Anyone ever done that?
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Richard
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:54 pm Post subject:
Re: What set up for surveillance camera? |
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Thing is, I'm in a situation of having minimal resources, otherwise I
probably would spend £300 odd quid.
No, what I must do is figure out a cheap security system and I think the
answer is to get a TV VCR combo, or simply a VCR, a camera, (regular
home camera or mini webcam type thing that can be hidden or in a door),
and somehow have a PIR controll the VCR. That's much better than 3
VCR's recording for 24 hrs.
"Les George" <les@nospam.baywatchsecurity.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Yes - you can use 1 x domestic vcr, but you need various devices to
make it
record when it sees movement.
PIR or motion detector (to sense the intruder)
Video controller (to start video recording for desired time)
Time/Date Generator (essential for prosecution).
Domestic VCR (only certain models are suitable as most have the one
button
record feaure that records for 30 mins every time rec is pressed &
will not
work).
VCRs are also getting harder to source, you must charge the tapes &
worst of
all there is a delay between the sensor sending the record signal &
the
video recording.
This usually ends up costing considerably more than the usb device for
a
worse system.
"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
news:33dc16F3tg885U1@individual.net...
"Les George" <les@nospam.baywatchsecurity.co.uk> wrote in message
news:YieAd.71$By2.13@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
Hi
We use a camera that is disguised as a door spyhole, it has a very
wide
angle of view & is available in very low light monochrome or
colour.
We also use a video capture device that is connected to your
computer
by usb
port. This comes with software that will allow it to record video
only when
it sees movement.
The camera needs to be wired back to the computer with a cable
similar
to a
telephone wire. Even if you use a wireless system you need to
take
power to
the camera (12 volts).
A complete system as described above would be £268.00 in
monochrome or
£326.00 in colour both & £6.50 P/P.
The images could also be viewed over the Internet.
All prices are + VAT.
That makes me wonder whether you can use one VCR. You have a
proximity
device control pause, VCR runs when the proximity thingy detects
movement. Anyone ever done that?
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Les George
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:04 pm Post subject:
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The cheapest thing you can do is 24 hour recorder, setting up a pir system
is very complicated & you need exactly the right vcr.
You can get a 24 hour vcr now for about £155.00 + VAT.
Don't know what you mean by home camera.
"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Thing is, I'm in a situation of having minimal resources, otherwise I
probably would spend £300 odd quid.
No, what I must do is figure out a cheap security system and I think the
answer is to get a TV VCR combo, or simply a VCR, a camera, (regular
home camera or mini webcam type thing that can be hidden or in a door),
and somehow have a PIR controll the VCR. That's much better than 3
VCR's recording for 24 hrs.
"Les George" <les@nospam.baywatchsecurity.co.uk> wrote in message
news:T3fAd.394$j21.125@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
Yes - you can use 1 x domestic vcr, but you need various devices to
make it
record when it sees movement.
PIR or motion detector (to sense the intruder)
Video controller (to start video recording for desired time)
Time/Date Generator (essential for prosecution).
Domestic VCR (only certain models are suitable as most have the one
button
record feaure that records for 30 mins every time rec is pressed &
will not
work).
VCRs are also getting harder to source, you must charge the tapes &
worst of
all there is a delay between the sensor sending the record signal &
the
video recording.
This usually ends up costing considerably more than the usb device for
a
worse system.
"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
news:33dc16F3tg885U1@individual.net...
"Les George" <les@nospam.baywatchsecurity.co.uk> wrote in message
news:YieAd.71$By2.13@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
Hi
We use a camera that is disguised as a door spyhole, it has a very
wide
angle of view & is available in very low light monochrome or
colour.
We also use a video capture device that is connected to your
computer
by usb
port. This comes with software that will allow it to record video
only when
it sees movement.
The camera needs to be wired back to the computer with a cable
similar
to a
telephone wire. Even if you use a wireless system you need to
take
power to
the camera (12 volts).
A complete system as described above would be £268.00 in
monochrome or
£326.00 in colour both & £6.50 P/P.
The images could also be viewed over the Internet.
All prices are + VAT.
That makes me wonder whether you can use one VCR. You have a
proximity
device control pause, VCR runs when the proximity thingy detects
movement. Anyone ever done that?
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BigWallop
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:37 pm Post subject:
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"Les George" <les@nospam.baywatchsecurity.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi
We use a camera that is disguised as a door spyhole, it has a very wide
angle of view & is available in very low light monochrome or colour.
We also use a video capture device that is connected to your computer by
usb
port. This comes with software that will allow it to record video only
when
it sees movement.
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The only thing about movement detection on the camera, is that a hit and run
may be to quick for the system to catch anything on the recording device.
By the time the camera detects and the recording begins, the bandit has
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BigWallop
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject:
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"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
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"Les George" <les@nospam.baywatchsecurity.co.uk> wrote in message
news:YieAd.71$By2.13@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
Hi
We use a camera that is disguised as a door spyhole, it has a very
wide
angle of view & is available in very low light monochrome or colour.
We also use a video capture device that is connected to your computer
by usb
port. This comes with software that will allow it to record video
only when
it sees movement.
The camera needs to be wired back to the computer with a cable similar
to a
telephone wire. Even if you use a wireless system you need to take
power to
the camera (12 volts).
A complete system as described above would be £268.00 in monochrome or
£326.00 in colour both & £6.50 P/P.
The images could also be viewed over the Internet.
All prices are + VAT.
That makes me wonder whether you can use one VCR. You have a proximity
device control pause, VCR runs when the proximity thingy detects
movement. Anyone ever done that?
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A 24 hour continuous recording device is the best way to go. |
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BigWallop
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:42 pm Post subject:
Re: What set up for surveillance camera? |
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"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Thing is, I'm in a situation of having minimal resources, otherwise I
probably would spend £300 odd quid.
No, what I must do is figure out a cheap security system and I think the
answer is to get a TV VCR combo, or simply a VCR, a camera, (regular
home camera or mini webcam type thing that can be hidden or in a door),
and somehow have a PIR controll the VCR. That's much better than 3
VCR's recording for 24 hrs.
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A 24 hour VCR with alarm input can be used with a PIR detector, but these
still record on 24 hour mode and change to standard 3 hour mode when the PIR
sends a signal. The VCR in 3 hour mode gives a better resolution and real
recording to the images it captures.
The equipment isn't expensive, and an e-bay account will probably let you
pick up all you need for a few quid. |
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Sim C.
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Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:24 am Post subject:
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:36:31 -0000, "Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi. Someone is damaging the front door and I think it's good to install
a surveillance camera to record whover is doing it.
I would have thought that what is needed is a tiny wireless camera
mounted on the inside of the door, looking through a wide-eyed lens.
Problem is recording the video. Ideally you probably want still images
images every say 15 seconds recorded on a HDD,
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Couple of alternatives;
My cheapo Logitech WebCam has bundled software which will detect
picture changes (ie motion) and snap pictures. It's not very good in
poor light though. Plugs into a USB socket so no extra hardware
needed. Cost less than £40.
Maybe a cheapo CCTV camera plugged into a TV card fitted to your PC (I
have something similar except it goes through a video also). You can
get standalone software that will detect motion. Cost about £100 max
total.
Where to fit the camera is a tricky one, my external camera is
actually inside looking through a window with an old car wing mirror
fastened on the outside so I can see what's needed, albeit a mirror
image. Works just fine though, and no hassle with external wiring or
weatherproof camera housings etc. |
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Richard
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Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:34 pm Post subject:
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"Richard" <useless@dot.com> wrote in message
That makes me wonder whether you can use one VCR. You have a
proximity
device control pause, VCR runs when the proximity thingy detects
movement. Anyone ever done that?
A 24 hour continuous recording device is the best way to go.
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Yep looks like it. I thought I'd have to use 3 VCR's to do that, but if
you can get 24 hr recording devices.
Are these 24 hr recorders digital, or regular analogue VCR tape
machines? Are we in fact just talking about recorders with HDD? What
make/model(s)? |
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