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Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:06 pm Post subject:
new timer relay help needed |
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I just puchased a new timer relay Midtex 658-44 with variable on and
variable off delays
I want to run the load on for a few seconds every few minutes
so I want to use configuration 6 on the document.
ftp://parts:parts@divxdude.dyndns.org/midtx658.pdf
u may need to use a ftp client to retrieve it.
I'm not real electronics savy anf am really confused by the
insructions
facts that
config 6 shows 2 sperate sets timer inputs (4 pins)
pinout diagram(8-pin "Wiring") does not provide 4 points for
2 sperate timers
config 6 also shows 3 relay symbols 2 which are in K-1
( B is used for load )
anyway..if I were to guess at it..
8 pins numbered clockwise starting bottm-left of the octal "notch"
looking from bottom (right?)
1. jumper pin 3
to pin 2
2 jumper pin 1 to
pin 5
apply input power A to ( pin 1or 5 ) and input power B to pin 7
load is powered by {(switched) pin 4} and {input power B}
how'd i do? guessed right or not?
if not please correct me.
thanks for your help.
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Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:16 pm Post subject:
Re: new timer relay help needed |
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I left one out (step 3) ..sorry.
1. jumper pin 3
to pin 2
2 jumper pin 1
to pin 5
3. jumper pin 8
to pin 2
apply input power A to ( pin 1or 5 ) and input power B to pin 7
load is powered by {(switched) pin 4} and {input power B}
how'd i do? guessed right or not?
if not please correct me.
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:06:03 GMT, urjant@mail.com wrote:
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1. jumper pin 3
to pin 2
2 jumper pin 1 to
pin 5
apply input power A to ( pin 1or 5 ) and input power B to pin 7
load is powered by {(switched) pin 4} and {input power B}
how'd i do? guessed right or not?
if not please correct me. |
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Posted:
Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject:
Re: new timer relay help needed |
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nope..
i dunno ..
have no clue.
help!
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:16:51 GMT, urjant@mail.com wrote:
| Quote: | I left one out (step 3) ..sorry.
1. jumper pin 3
to pin 2
2 jumper pin 1
to pin 5
3. jumper pin 8
to pin 2
apply input power A to ( pin 1or 5 ) and input power B to pin 7
load is powered by {(switched) pin 4} and {input power B}
how'd i do? guessed right or not?
if not please correct me.
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:06:03 GMT, urjant@mail.com wrote:
1. jumper pin 3
to pin 2
2 jumper pin 1 to
pin 5
apply input power A to ( pin 1or 5 ) and input power B to pin 7
load is powered by {(switched) pin 4} and {input power B}
how'd i do? guessed right or not?
if not please correct me. |
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Posted:
Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:52 am Post subject:
Re: new timer relay help needed |
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urjant@mail.com wrote:
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Posted:
Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:54 am Post subject:
Re: new timer relay help needed |
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sorry its on now.
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:52:05 -0500, William P.N. Smith wrote:
| Quote: | urjant@mail.com wrote:
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Posted:
Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject:
Re: new timer relay help needed |
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urjant@mail.com wrote:
| Quote: | nope..
i dunno ..
have no clue.
help!
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:16:51 GMT, urjant@mail.com wrote:
I left one out (step 3) ..sorry.
1. jumper pin 3
to pin 2
2 jumper pin 1
to pin 5
3. jumper pin 8
to pin 2
apply input power A to ( pin 1or 5 ) and input power B to pin 7
load is powered by {(switched) pin 4} and {input power B}
how'd i do? guessed right or not?
if not please correct me.
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:06:03 GMT, urjant@mail.com wrote:
1. jumper pin 3
to pin 2
2 jumper pin 1 to
pin 5
apply input power A to ( pin 1or 5 ) and input power B to pin 7
load is powered by {(switched) pin 4} and {input power B}
how'd i do? guessed right or not?
if not please correct me.
Diagram 6 is not what you want. The 658-44 has switches |
on it to set the timing for both on and off - diagram
6 uses two separate relays to accomplish that.
Look at the diagram below.
The relay coil is connected to pins 2 and 7. You
apply a voltage to those pins to energize the relay.
You connect your load to pins 1 and 3. Alternatively,
you could connect your load to pins 6 and 8.
You set the switches on the relay to conrol the
cycle time.
Diagram: (N is the notch, you are looking at the
pins - each number corresponds to a pin)
...5...4
..6.(.).3
..7..N..2
...8...1
Ed |
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Posted:
Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:43 pm Post subject:
Re: new timer relay help needed |
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from bottom or top?
the socket i picked up at a surplus store
is clockwise from bottom view (opposite your diagram)
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Diagram: (N is the notch, you are looking at the
pins - each number corresponds to a pin)
..5...4
.6.(.).3
.7..N..2
..8...1
Ed |
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Posted:
Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject:
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urjant@mail.com wrote:
| Quote: | from bottom or top?
the socket i picked up at a surplus store
is clockwise from bottom view (opposite your diagram)
It doesn't matter - I probably "drew" the socket backwards, |
but it doesn't change the wiring. Your socket is like this:
....4...5
..3.(..)..6
..2..N..7
....1...8
The wiring description remains the same:
The relay coil is connected to pins 2 and 7. You
apply a voltage to those pins to energize the relay.
You connect your load to pins 1 and 3. Alternatively,
you could connect your load to pins 6 and 8.
Ed |
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Posted:
Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:23 pm Post subject:
Re: new timer relay help needed |
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ok Ed thanks for the help, much easier than i made it out to be.
yeah the pinout is symetrical so even if my way is the wrong one its
just means the off period would engage before the on I guess.
I wire it up and give it a try.
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 06:18:33 GMT, ehsjr@bellatlantic.net wrote:
| Quote: | urjant@mail.com wrote:
from bottom or top?
the socket i picked up at a surplus store
is clockwise from bottom view (opposite your diagram)
It doesn't matter - I probably "drew" the socket backwards,
but it doesn't change the wiring. Your socket is like this:
...4...5
.3.(..)..6
.2..N..7
...1...8
The wiring description remains the same:
The relay coil is connected to pins 2 and 7. You
apply a voltage to those pins to energize the relay.
You connect your load to pins 1 and 3. Alternatively,
you could connect your load to pins 6 and 8.
Ed |
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