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*selah*
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can trace
wires that are not connected?
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*selah*
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
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"*selah*" <pzion.naax@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Ryan Weihl" <rweihl@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Robert Baer wrote:
*selah* wrote:
We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can
trace
wires that are not connected?
RadioShack (Micronta) 23-1521 / 23-115 are AC electrostatic
sensors;
when close to a powered line, the LED lights up.
A.W. Sperry (model number unknown) also made a similar unit that
was
about 10 times more sensitive, with an adjustable sensitivity and
piezo
sounder.
They all use a CMOS logic IC (MC14069UB or HCF4069UB) to get the
sensitivity and gain; they runoff of 3V supplied by 2 cells that
last
"forever".
Such an item may also be uaseful.
hi
the original op said the outlets are not connected.
if the outlets have not been connect then you can trace the wires
with
this method.
but if the wires from the outlets are not connected at the junction
box
you got to feed a signal into the outlet and find out to which
junction
box they go, or you open each junction box and check the wiring.
fun!
The wires are connected to the outlet but not to anything else. No
ground, neutral, or hot connection.
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Actually, I didn't test to see if there is a ground to ground. That
would make it possible with the tester I have. |
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*selah*
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
Re: unconnected wire tracer |
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"Ryan Weihl" <rweihl@nospam.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Robert Baer wrote:
*selah* wrote:
We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can
trace
wires that are not connected?
RadioShack (Micronta) 23-1521 / 23-115 are AC electrostatic
sensors;
when close to a powered line, the LED lights up.
A.W. Sperry (model number unknown) also made a similar unit that
was
about 10 times more sensitive, with an adjustable sensitivity and
piezo
sounder.
They all use a CMOS logic IC (MC14069UB or HCF4069UB) to get the
sensitivity and gain; they runoff of 3V supplied by 2 cells that
last
"forever".
Such an item may also be uaseful.
hi
the original op said the outlets are not connected.
if the outlets have not been connect then you can trace the wires with
this method.
but if the wires from the outlets are not connected at the junction
box
you got to feed a signal into the outlet and find out to which
junction
box they go, or you open each junction box and check the wiring.
fun!
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The wires are connected to the outlet but not to anything else. No
ground, neutral, or hot connection.
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Ryan Weihl
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
Re: unconnected wire tracer |
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Robert Baer wrote:
| Quote: | *selah* wrote:
We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can trace
wires that are not connected?
RadioShack (Micronta) 23-1521 / 23-115 are AC electrostatic sensors;
when close to a powered line, the LED lights up.
A.W. Sperry (model number unknown) also made a similar unit that was
about 10 times more sensitive, with an adjustable sensitivity and piezo
sounder.
They all use a CMOS logic IC (MC14069UB or HCF4069UB) to get the
sensitivity and gain; they runoff of 3V supplied by 2 cells that last
"forever".
Such an item may also be uaseful.
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hi
the original op said the outlets are not connected.
if the outlets have not been connect then you can trace the wires with
this method.
but if the wires from the outlets are not connected at the junction box
you got to feed a signal into the outlet and find out to which junction
box they go, or you open each junction box and check the wiring.
fun! |
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Jamie
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
Re: unconnected wire tracer |
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*selah* wrote:
| Quote: | We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can trace
wires that are not connected?
yes, look on the internet for a Fox & Hound wire tracer. |
there are others also.
--
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5 |
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Robert Baer
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
Re: unconnected wire tracer |
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*selah* wrote:
| Quote: | We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can trace
wires that are not connected?
RadioShack (Micronta) 23-1521 / 23-115 are AC electrostatic sensors; |
when close to a powered line, the LED lights up.
A.W. Sperry (model number unknown) also made a similar unit that was
about 10 times more sensitive, with an adjustable sensitivity and piezo
sounder.
They all use a CMOS logic IC (MC14069UB or HCF4069UB) to get the
sensitivity and gain; they runoff of 3V supplied by 2 cells that last
"forever".
Such an item may also be uaseful. |
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CJT
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Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:32 am Post subject:
Re: unconnected wire tracer |
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*selah* wrote:
| Quote: | "Jamie" <jamie_5_not_valid_after_5_Please@charter.net> wrote in message
news:G8Phf.3780$Mj.2537@fe04.lga...
*selah* wrote:
We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can
trace
wires that are not connected?
yes, look on the internet for a Fox & Hound wire tracer.
there are others also.
--
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
Are you saying that the fox and hound can trace a wire that isn't
connected to anything?
You do have to be able to access one end of the wire. The "Fox" imposes |
its own signal, which can then be tracked using the "Hound."
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The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net. |
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Ryan Weihl
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Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
Re: unconnected wire tracer |
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*selah* wrote:
| Quote: | "*selah*" <pzion.naax@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dm943l02idd@news2.newsguy.com...
"Ryan Weihl" <rweihl@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:7PSdnVjReJA-dhrenZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@rogers.com...
Robert Baer wrote:
*selah* wrote:
We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can
trace
wires that are not connected?
RadioShack (Micronta) 23-1521 / 23-115 are AC electrostatic
sensors;
when close to a powered line, the LED lights up.
A.W. Sperry (model number unknown) also made a similar unit that
was
about 10 times more sensitive, with an adjustable sensitivity and
piezo
sounder.
They all use a CMOS logic IC (MC14069UB or HCF4069UB) to get the
sensitivity and gain; they runoff of 3V supplied by 2 cells that
last
"forever".
Such an item may also be uaseful.
hi
the original op said the outlets are not connected.
if the outlets have not been connect then you can trace the wires
with
this method.
but if the wires from the outlets are not connected at the junction
box
you got to feed a signal into the outlet and find out to which
junction
box they go, or you open each junction box and check the wiring.
fun!
The wires are connected to the outlet but not to anything else. No
ground, neutral, or hot connection.
Actually, I didn't test to see if there is a ground to ground. That
would make it possible with the tester I have.
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or you may have the case that the outlets are wired to
the fuse panel and just no fuse installed or left hanging there to save
the cost of a breaker.
rw |
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*selah*
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Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
Re: unconnected wire tracer |
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"Jamie" <jamie_5_not_valid_after_5_Please@charter.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | *selah* wrote:
We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can
trace
wires that are not connected?
yes, look on the internet for a Fox & Hound wire tracer.
there are others also.
--
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
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Are you saying that the fox and hound can trace a wire that isn't
connected to anything? |
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Jamie
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Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
Re: unconnected wire tracer |
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*selah* wrote:
| Quote: | "Jamie" <jamie_5_not_valid_after_5_Please@charter.net> wrote in message
news:G8Phf.3780$Mj.2537@fe04.lga...
*selah* wrote:
We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can
trace
wires that are not connected?
yes, look on the internet for a Fox & Hound wire tracer.
there are others also.
--
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
Are you saying that the fox and hound can trace a wire that isn't
connected to anything?
hmm, you connect the Transmitter in one of the wires in the outlet |
the you use the probe..
its a 2 piece kit. it will pick up your romx a few inches away..
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http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5 |
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*selah*
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Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject:
Re: unconnected wire tracer |
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"CJT" <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | *selah* wrote:
"Jamie" <jamie_5_not_valid_after_5_Please@charter.net> wrote in
message
news:G8Phf.3780$Mj.2537@fe04.lga...
*selah* wrote:
We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can
trace
wires that are not connected?
yes, look on the internet for a Fox & Hound wire tracer.
there are others also.
--
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
Are you saying that the fox and hound can trace a wire that isn't
connected to anything?
You do have to be able to access one end of the wire. The "Fox"
imposes
its own signal, which can then be tracked using the "Hound."
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So if it was connected to one end of a wire, you could trace the wire
without having the other end of the wire connected to anything? With all
the testers I've seen there's a transmitter and a receiver - and you
have to have a closed circuit or the transmitter doesn't function. |
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Von Heler
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
Re: unconnected wire tracer |
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On 26 Nov 2005, Jamie
| Quote: | *selah* wrote:
We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can trace
wires that are not connected?
yes, look on the internet for a Fox & Hound wire tracer.
there are others also.
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Von Heler
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. Is there a circuit tester that can trace
wires that are not connected?
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Von Heler
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | We've got a problem in apartments that have been renovated. The
electricians sometimes run wires to outlets, etc. that they don't
connect to power or neutral. I there a circuit tester that can trace
wires that are not connected?
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