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Marco Torello
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Read Protected PIC Reply with quote

Hello,
Can somebody tell me who can read rome PIC protected?
I pay good money for that.
Please, post me in pacofix@libero.it

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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Read Protected PIC Reply with quote

pacofix@libero.it (Marco Torello) wrote:
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Can somebody tell me who can read rome PIC protected?

The whole point of write protecting them is that you can't recover the
ROM contents. Well, you can always strip off the plastic and image
the bits, but that's a whole lot more expensive than writing your own
code...
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Eric Smith
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: Read Protected PIC Reply with quote

William P.N. Smith writes:
Quote:
The whole point of write protecting them is that you can't recover the
ROM contents. Well, you can always strip off the plastic and image
the bits, but that's a whole lot more expensive than writing your own
code...

Won't work on most PICs, which use EPROM, EEPROM, or Flash memory
cells. There's no optically visible difference between cells storing
a 0 vs. a 1.

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Theo Markettos
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Read Protected PIC Reply with quote

Eric Smith <eric@brouhaha.com> wrote:
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William P.N. Smith writes:
The whole point of write protecting them is that you can't recover the
ROM contents. Well, you can always strip off the plastic and image
the bits, but that's a whole lot more expensive than writing your own
code...

Won't work on most PICs, which use EPROM, EEPROM, or Flash memory
cells. There's no optically visible difference between cells storing
a 0 vs. a 1.

Not by looking at them, but you can optically or eddy current probe them:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sps32/

Theo

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CB3 9AL, UK http://www.markettos.org.uk/
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Roger Hamlett
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Read Protected PIC Reply with quote

"Eric Smith" <eric@brouhaha.com> wrote in message
news:qhbr9pis7j.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com...
Quote:
William P.N. Smith writes:
The whole point of write protecting them is that you can't recover the
ROM contents. Well, you can always strip off the plastic and image
the bits, but that's a whole lot more expensive than writing your own
code...

Won't work on most PICs, which use EPROM, EEPROM, or Flash memory
cells. There's no optically visible difference between cells storing
a 0 vs. a 1.
'Imaging', does not imply visual.

You can get the data with a SEM, but the cost is typically perhaps
$20000+. You also then have to work out where each 'bit' resides in the
physical memory structure.

Best Wishes
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