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Mark
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject: ADE Control Panels - Any Good? Reply with quote
Anyone any comments on the ADE Optima control panel - good or bad?

Considering this for a simple domestic installation. Reliability is an
important factor.

On a similar subject, any general recommendations for dualtech and
standard PIRs.

Thanks

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Ian M Shepherd
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: ADE Control Panels - Any Good? Reply with quote
"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Anyone any comments on the ADE Optima control panel - good or bad?

Considering this for a simple domestic installation. Reliability is an
important factor.

On a similar subject, any general recommendations for dualtech and
standard PIRs.

Thanks

Optima's are one of the cheapest panels on the market. Some installers have
been using them for years but they tend to be the lower end of the market.
The earlier versions had a problem if the power failed to the system, and
not having an NVM to back-up the data. Personally I think there are far
better panels around, but it's like most things in life - you get what you
pay for. Price isn't everything.
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Mark
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: ADE Control Panels - Any Good? Reply with quote
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:42:20 -0000, "Ian M Shepherd"
<imshepherd@despammed.com> wrote:

Quote:

"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:ha6h01lkvpgio7ntfirriq9kre6add287h@4ax.com...
Anyone any comments on the ADE Optima control panel - good or bad?

Considering this for a simple domestic installation. Reliability is an
important factor.

On a similar subject, any general recommendations for dualtech and
standard PIRs.

Thanks

Optima's are one of the cheapest panels on the market. Some installers have
been using them for years but they tend to be the lower end of the market.
The earlier versions had a problem if the power failed to the system, and
not having an NVM to back-up the data. Personally I think there are far
better panels around, but it's like most things in life - you get what you
pay for. Price isn't everything.


So what panel would you recommend for less than £100? It will be a
wired 4 zone installation without dialler, remote keypad as an option
would be handy, but not essential.

As a DIYer the problem I have is getting hold of some products as they
appear to be available "trade account" only. That leaves TLC or CPC as
far as I'm aware for on-line purchashing.

I have a local Gardiner trade counter, not sure if thery sell to joe
public?

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Robert Ceuppens
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: ADE Control Panels - Any Good? Reply with quote
Texecom Veritas (or even better.. Excel version with LCD screen) would be a
better bet than the Optima. 8 zones.
I use it a lot on smaller installations and it's always reliable and does
what it says on the tin :o)

Rob.


"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:42:20 -0000, "Ian M Shepherd"
imshepherd@despammed.com> wrote:


"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:ha6h01lkvpgio7ntfirriq9kre6add287h@4ax.com...
Anyone any comments on the ADE Optima control panel - good or bad?

Considering this for a simple domestic installation. Reliability is an
important factor.

On a similar subject, any general recommendations for dualtech and
standard PIRs.

Thanks

Optima's are one of the cheapest panels on the market. Some installers
have
been using them for years but they tend to be the lower end of the market.
The earlier versions had a problem if the power failed to the system, and
not having an NVM to back-up the data. Personally I think there are far
better panels around, but it's like most things in life - you get what you
pay for. Price isn't everything.


So what panel would you recommend for less than £100? It will be a
wired 4 zone installation without dialler, remote keypad as an option
would be handy, but not essential.

As a DIYer the problem I have is getting hold of some products as they
appear to be available "trade account" only. That leaves TLC or CPC as
far as I'm aware for on-line purchashing.

I have a local Gardiner trade counter, not sure if thery sell to joe
public?
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Ian M Shepherd
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: ADE Control Panels - Any Good? Reply with quote
"Robert Ceuppens" <robceuppens@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Texecom Veritas (or even better.. Excel version with LCD screen) would be
a better bet than the Optima. 8 zones.
I use it a lot on smaller installations and it's always reliable and does
what it says on the tin :o)

Rob.


"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:c1dp01hc3u1g4sb7aget22trlb5lf4vcqr@4ax.com...
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:42:20 -0000, "Ian M Shepherd"
imshepherd@despammed.com> wrote:


"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:ha6h01lkvpgio7ntfirriq9kre6add287h@4ax.com...
Anyone any comments on the ADE Optima control panel - good or bad?

Considering this for a simple domestic installation. Reliability is an
important factor.

On a similar subject, any general recommendations for dualtech and
standard PIRs.

Thanks

Optima's are one of the cheapest panels on the market. Some installers
have
been using them for years but they tend to be the lower end of the
market.
The earlier versions had a problem if the power failed to the system, and
not having an NVM to back-up the data. Personally I think there are far
better panels around, but it's like most things in life - you get what
you
pay for. Price isn't everything.


So what panel would you recommend for less than £100? It will be a
wired 4 zone installation without dialler, remote keypad as an option
would be handy, but not essential.

As a DIYer the problem I have is getting hold of some products as they
appear to be available "trade account" only. That leaves TLC or CPC as
far as I'm aware for on-line purchashing.

I have a local Gardiner trade counter, not sure if thery sell to joe
public?


Gardiners do a number but I'm fairly sure they're trade only. Many of the

electrical wholesalers sell to Jo Public - and for £100 you can get a top of
the range panel. Texacom are good - made just a mile away from here !
Another good LCD panel is Eurosec - eight zones less than £50 but probably
not a panel for the DIYer I'm afraid.
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Mark
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: ADE Control Panels - Any Good? Reply with quote
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:52:50 -0000, "Ian M Shepherd"
<imshepherd@despammed.com> wrote:

Quote:



So what panel would you recommend for less than £100? It will be a
wired 4 zone installation without dialler, remote keypad as an option
would be handy, but not essential.

As a DIYer the problem I have is getting hold of some products as they
appear to be available "trade account" only. That leaves TLC or CPC as
far as I'm aware for on-line purchashing.

I have a local Gardiner trade counter, not sure if thery sell to joe
public?


Gardiners do a number but I'm fairly sure they're trade only. Many of the
electrical wholesalers sell to Jo Public - and for £100 you can get a top of
the range panel. Texacom are good - made just a mile away from here !
Another good LCD panel is Eurosec - eight zones less than £50 but probably
not a panel for the DIYer I'm afraid.


Why would this panel not be suitable for the DIYer ??
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Ian M Shepherd
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: ADE Control Panels - Any Good? Reply with quote
"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:52:50 -0000, "Ian M Shepherd"
imshepherd@despammed.com> wrote:




So what panel would you recommend for less than £100? It will be a
wired 4 zone installation without dialler, remote keypad as an option
would be handy, but not essential.

As a DIYer the problem I have is getting hold of some products as they
appear to be available "trade account" only. That leaves TLC or CPC as
far as I'm aware for on-line purchashing.

I have a local Gardiner trade counter, not sure if thery sell to joe
public?


Gardiners do a number but I'm fairly sure they're trade only. Many of the
electrical wholesalers sell to Jo Public - and for £100 you can get a top
of
the range panel. Texacom are good - made just a mile away from here !
Another good LCD panel is Eurosec - eight zones less than £50 but probably
not a panel for the DIYer I'm afraid.


Why would this panel not be suitable for the DIYer ??
Well it really depends on your prior knowledge. It's all software

configured, and the average DIYer probably wouldn't understand some of the
terminology .... Not wanting to sound patronising there.

If you have a good general technical skill - then you'd probably be able to
figure it out by trial and error, but may get stuck. Last chap I know
installed one was an electrician - and managed to programme the bell timers
for delayed output and it took a while to talk him through all the setting
to find where he'd gone wrong.
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Mark
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: ADE Control Panels - Any Good? Reply with quote
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:19:23 -0000, "Ian M Shepherd"
<imshepherd@despammed.com> wrote:

Quote:

"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:52:50 -0000, "Ian M Shepherd"
imshepherd@despammed.com> wrote:






Gardiners do a number but I'm fairly sure they're trade only. Many of the
electrical wholesalers sell to Jo Public - and for £100 you can get a top
of
the range panel. Texacom are good - made just a mile away from here !
Another good LCD panel is Eurosec - eight zones less than £50 but probably
not a panel for the DIYer I'm afraid.


Why would this panel not be suitable for the DIYer ??
Well it really depends on your prior knowledge. It's all software
configured, and the average DIYer probably wouldn't understand some of the
terminology .... Not wanting to sound patronising there.

If you have a good general technical skill - then you'd probably be able to
figure it out by trial and error, but may get stuck. Last chap I know
installed one was an electrician - and managed to programme the bell timers
for delayed output and it took a while to talk him through all the setting
to find where he'd gone wrong.

Fair point, but as I'm an electronics/software engineer I imagine I'd

be able to figure it out even if not conversant with 'alarm
terminology'. To be honest I'd already considered the Eurosec but
assumed it would be a lot more expensive than thjje ADE range.
Obviously not.
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Ian M Shepherd
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: ADE Control Panels - Any Good? Reply with quote
"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:19:23 -0000, "Ian M Shepherd"
imshepherd@despammed.com> wrote:


"Mark" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:52:50 -0000, "Ian M Shepherd"
imshepherd@despammed.com> wrote:






Gardiners do a number but I'm fairly sure they're trade only. Many of
the
electrical wholesalers sell to Jo Public - and for £100 you can get a
top
of
the range panel. Texacom are good - made just a mile away from here !
Another good LCD panel is Eurosec - eight zones less than £50 but
probably
not a panel for the DIYer I'm afraid.


Why would this panel not be suitable for the DIYer ??
Well it really depends on your prior knowledge. It's all software
configured, and the average DIYer probably wouldn't understand some of the
terminology .... Not wanting to sound patronising there.

If you have a good general technical skill - then you'd probably be able
to
figure it out by trial and error, but may get stuck. Last chap I know
installed one was an electrician - and managed to programme the bell
timers
for delayed output and it took a while to talk him through all the setting
to find where he'd gone wrong.

Fair point, but as I'm an electronics/software engineer I imagine I'd
be able to figure it out even if not conversant with 'alarm
terminology'. To be honest I'd already considered the Eurosec but
assumed it would be a lot more expensive than thjje ADE range.
Obviously not.

Trade - they're about £50 plus VAT for a good 8 zone panel with remote LCD.
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