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Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Alarm system are never yours... |
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When you choice to have a pro-installer/monitoring of the alarm system
YOU pay for..
It will never be fully yours.
Just keep in mind that when you take a professional to install and/or
monitor your alarm system...
They don't provide you with ALL the secret access codes...
The "installer code" they keep it forcing you to stay with them.
Of course, they keep some codes for them only to "protect you" to do
mistakes..
When
- you sell your system (house) to somebody who don't like to
follow your maintenance/monitoring contracts,
- you like to add to or alter your system
well think it over how you will handle that without full access.
Ask them the question and find-out the consequences when you don't
have ALL access codes and full property of your system without
"initial" contractor authorization!
Paul
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:59 am Post subject:
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just reboot the alarm and * and # to get into program will change the
installer code ... Gee man ... |
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BigWallop
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:20 am Post subject:
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"........." <nomail@aol.com> wrote in message
news:flb3u0590j2632r8266raota78e929v0ra@4ax.com...
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When you choice to have a pro-installer/monitoring of the alarm system
YOU pay for..
It will never be fully yours.
Just keep in mind that when you take a professional to install and/or
monitor your alarm system...
They don't provide you with ALL the secret access codes...
The "installer code" they keep it forcing you to stay with them.
Of course, they keep some codes for them only to "protect you" to do
mistakes..
When
- you sell your system (house) to somebody who don't like to
follow your maintenance/monitoring contracts,
- you like to add to or alter your system
well think it over how you will handle that without full access.
Ask them the question and find-out the consequences when you don't
have ALL access codes and full property of your system without
"initial" contractor authorization!
Paul
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Ahhhhhhhhh !!!!! Paul the poof is now picking on the ARC's now. What the fuck
is up with this nutty bastard?
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Ian M Shepherd
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:25 am Post subject:
Re: Alarm system are never yours... |
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"........." <nomail@aol.com> wrote in message
news:flb3u0590j2632r8266raota78e929v0ra@4ax.com...
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When you choice to have a pro-installer/monitoring of the alarm system
YOU pay for..
It will never be fully yours.
Just keep in mind that when you take a professional to install and/or
monitor your alarm system...
They don't provide you with ALL the secret access codes...
The "installer code" they keep it forcing you to stay with them.
Of course, they keep some codes for them only to "protect you" to do
mistakes..
When
- you sell your system (house) to somebody who don't like to
follow your maintenance/monitoring contracts,
- you like to add to or alter your system
well think it over how you will handle that without full access.
Ask them the question and find-out the consequences when you don't
have ALL access codes and full property of your system without
"initial" contractor authorization!
Paul
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Which planet are you on ? Total rubbish .... as long as you read the
contract you can be sure who owns what. Engineer codes are withheld from
user simply because users normally haven't a clue what they're doing, and
cause numerous problems when they get into the programming. |
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:36 am Post subject:
Re: Alarm system are never yours... |
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On 9 Jan 2005 14:59:06 -0800, rory@aspbahamas.com wrote:
| Quote: | just reboot the alarm and * and # to get into program will change the
installer code ... Gee man ...
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Test and see how pleasant it is to lose "all set-up" conditions if you
like to do a small change to your system and if that general reset
really works on your system.
Don't forget that you are unable to look to the setup conditions
without having all passwords.
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:42:38 +0100, I wrote:
| Quote: | When you choice to have a pro-installer/monitoring of the alarm system
YOU pay for..
It will never be fully yours.
Just keep in mind that when you take a professional to install and/or
monitor your alarm system...
They don't provide you with ALL the secret access codes...
The "installer code" they keep it forcing you to stay with them.
Of course, they keep some codes for them only to "protect you" to do
mistakes..
When
- you sell your system (house) to somebody who don't like to
follow your maintenance/monitoring contracts,
- you like to add to or alter your system
well think it over how you will handle that without full access.
Ask them the question and find-out the consequences when you don't
have ALL access codes and full property of your system without
"initial" contractor authorization!
Paul |
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:22 am Post subject:
Re: Alarm system are never yours... |
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you dont loose any set up programming when you do what I said. On
Ademco panels. There is only one password, the installer, then you are
in program mode. Dont know what kind of POS you play with ... X10?? |
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Mark Leuck
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:36 am Post subject:
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<rory@aspbahamas.com> wrote in message
news:1105316557.913953.320550@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | you dont loose any set up programming when you do what I said. On
Ademco panels. There is only one password, the installer, then you are
in program mode. Dont know what kind of POS you play with ... X10??
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He had this system
http://home.sps-edv.de/~bohrer/cornwell/alt/alarm/ha50.htm
<snicker> |
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BigWallop
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:15 am Post subject:
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<rory@aspbahamas.com> wrote in message
news:1105311546.547126.307620@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | just reboot the alarm and * and # to get into program will change the
installer code ... Gee man ...
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He's even signed the bottom of the post with "Paul" guys. It's the same person
who goes on about wireless alarms being crap and how he was diddled out of being
able to disarm it with a mobile phone, or something daft like that.
It's Paul the poof from Belgium. Don't feed the troll with any
replies.........Please !!! |
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Joe
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
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Ian M Shepherd wrote:
| Quote: | "........." <nomail@aol.com> wrote in message
news:flb3u0590j2632r8266raota78e929v0ra@4ax.com...
When you choice to have a pro-installer/monitoring of the alarm system
YOU pay for..
It will never be fully yours.
Just keep in mind that when you take a professional to install and/or
monitor your alarm system...
They don't provide you with ALL the secret access codes...
The "installer code" they keep it forcing you to stay with them.
Of course, they keep some codes for them only to "protect you" to do
mistakes..
When
- you sell your system (house) to somebody who don't like to
follow your maintenance/monitoring contracts,
- you like to add to or alter your system
well think it over how you will handle that without full access.
Ask them the question and find-out the consequences when you don't
have ALL access codes and full property of your system without
"initial" contractor authorization!
Paul
Which planet are you on ? Total rubbish .... as long as you read the
contract you can be sure who owns what. Engineer codes are withheld from
user simply because users normally haven't a clue what they're doing, and
cause numerous problems when they get into the programming.
Whichm is exactly what Paul himself said a few posts ago. Rory posted |
how to change the installer code on ademco type panels and paul admitted
that a typical user would royally screw up the program...
Nice to see he is with us on this one. |
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Stanley Barthfarkle
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject:
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That's no alarm system- it's a paperweight designed to look like an alarm
system... |
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Robert L. Bass
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:52 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | That's no alarm system- it's a paperweight designed
to look like an alarm system...
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Or an alarm system designed to function like a paper weight. :^) |
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BigWallop
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:57 am Post subject:
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"Robert L. Bass" <robertlbass@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | That's no alarm system- it's a paperweight designed
to look like an alarm system...
Or an alarm system designed to function like a paper weight. :^)
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It just looks good on paper. ;-) |
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Robert L. Bass
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:04 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | It just looks good on paper. ;-)
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The kind that comes on a roll? :^) |
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:23 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:58:40 -0500, "Robert L. Bass"
<robertlbass@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | "Paul" isn't stupid, by the way. He doesn't believe any of the stuff he
posts about wireless. He posts to get others to respond, preferably in
anger. It's called trolling. There's some doubt that he is even in
Belgium, let alone that he ever owned the POS alarm he's always on about.
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Robert, all professionals like to mention the newer/modern systems but
nobody is able to specify WHAT is improved, what is implemented to
avoid wireless alarm systems RFI..
You know that most of the "so called" professionals are of the "low
intellectual/mental class" type.
One advantage they have, English is theyre mother language and allow
them to spew easily.
You experience by yourself and know what stupid/sabodish mail is
posted here in this newsgroup..
Who is trolling in fact?
Who does multiple disturbing and unjustified posts out of subject to
my posts?
Who is never able to counter-argue with valid manufacturer supported
answers/data to what i say..
Who is really trolling?
Paul
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:42:38 +0100, I wrote:
| Quote: | When you choice to have a pro-installer/monitoring of the alarm system
YOU pay for..
It will never be fully yours.
Just keep in mind that when you take a professional to install and/or
monitor your alarm system...
They don't provide you with ALL the secret access codes...
The "installer code" they keep it forcing you to stay with them.
Of course, they keep some codes for them only to "protect you" to do
mistakes..
When
- you sell your system (house) to somebody who don't like to
follow your maintenance/monitoring contracts,
- you like to add to or alter your system
well think it over how you will handle that without full access.
Ask them the question and find-out the consequences when you don't
have ALL access codes and full property of your system without
"initial" contractor authorization!
Paul |
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Robert L. Bass
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:16 pm Post subject:
Re: Alarm system are never yours... |
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| Quote: | Robert, all professionals like to mention the
newer/modern systems but nobody is able to
specify WHAT is improved, what is implemented
to avoid wireless alarm systems RFI...
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This has already been discussed at length. I see no point in reposting the
same thing.
| Quote: | You know that most of the "so called" professionals
are of the "low intellectual/mental class" type.
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I never said that. The average education level of alarm installers isn't
all that high but that doesn't necessarily correlate with a low mental
capacity. The average is skewed somewhat lower by folks like the MM but
there are enough bright installers to make up for him.
| Quote: | One advantage they have, English is theyre
mother language and allow them to spew easily...
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Bear in mind that I don't believe you're from Belgium. I suspect you're
actually an American troll, pretending to be from Belgium.
| Quote: | You experience by yourself and know what
stupid/sabodish mail is posted here in this
newsgroup...
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Sabodish's stupidity has nothing to do with RFI. That is an entirely
separate element. The fact that he is dumber than a box of rocks does not
lend credence to your theories.
| Quote: | Who is trolling in fact?
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You are, but I don't mind. It's kind of comical watching some of the guys
try to argue with you.
| Quote: | Who does multiple disturbing and unjustified
posts out of subject to my posts?
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You've achieved your goals here.
| Quote: | Who is never able to counter-argue with valid
manufacturer supported answers/data to what
i say..
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You're not interested in manufacturer data or anything else. That's just a
ruse to get the IB to argue with you.
| Quote: | Who is really trolling?
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Objection: Asked and answered. :^) |
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