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N Cook
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:34 am Post subject:
Contactor on 3 phase motor query |
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What would the voltage usually be on the coil of the contactor for
a lathe using a 3 phase motor?. In UK so single phase is 240V ac
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golfer
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:45 am Post subject:
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It could be anywhere from 12 VDC to 575 VAC. Any markings on the
coil?? Who is the contactor manufacturer?? |
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N Cook
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:38 am Post subject:
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"golfer" <w_lundy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | It could be anywhere from 12 VDC to 575 VAC. Any markings on the
coil?? Who is the contactor manufacturer??
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All I know is the coil has failed, not obviously overheated but now open
circuit .
It consists of 5,200 turns of 40SWG. Heavily modified lathe with
contactor changed 20 years ago with an unknown make one.
Only the coil is in my possession, removed by owner wanting rewinding and I
wanted some idea what
I'm likely to find on refitting the coil.
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Aldo Larrabiata
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:03 am Post subject:
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Can you reverse engineer the circuit ?
I guess you have a normally closed contact (Emergency / Off push button) in
series with the coil. Then in series with it, two normally open contacts
connected in parallel together. The first one is the On push button, the
second one is an auxiallary contact of the relay, closing at the same time
as the three-phase power contacts. All the circuitry is powered under 240
Vac.
If the mains is 240 Vac, there's 240 V between one phase and the neutral.
Between two phases, there's 415 Vac.
Should you have a Delta / Star starter, this shouldn't change anything in
the voltages nor the commands since this is a standard circuit.
Didn't the UK stick to European 230 Vac +/- 10% rules ?
| Quote: | a lathe using a 3 phase motor?. In UK so single phase is 240V ac
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Does this mean that you're using a three-phase motor on a single phase main,
using a capacitor to shift the third phase ?
If yes, normally the motor isn't able to start from itself without changing
the capacitor value during the starting period. The circuitry is a little
bit more tricky and this an uncommon arrangement. The relay could be
anything.
Please clarify |
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NSM
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:44 am Post subject:
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"N Cook" <diverse2@tcp.co.antyspahm.uk> wrote in message
news:TMSdncIVleO2UWLcRVn-1w@tcp.co.uk...
| Quote: | What would the voltage usually be on the coil of the contactor for
a lathe using a 3 phase motor?. In UK so single phase is 240V ac
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It's either 415 VAC or you have an oddly complex starter - I assume it's a
starter and has thermal overloads installed.
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James Sweet
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:57 am Post subject:
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"N Cook" <diverse2@tcp.co.antyspahm.uk> wrote in message
news:TMSdncIVleO2UWLcRVn-1w@tcp.co.uk...
| Quote: | What would the voltage usually be on the coil of the contactor for
a lathe using a 3 phase motor?. In UK so single phase is 240V ac
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Measure it...
Even a cheap DMM should go as high as you'll possibly find there. |
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Jamie
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
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N Cook wrote:
| Quote: | What would the voltage usually be on the coil of the contactor for
a lathe using a 3 phase motor?. In UK so single phase is 240V ac
most likely 240V, i am from the US and we use 120 normally for the |
coil which also matches our resident common voltage. we do also
use 220..240 coils in Foreighn machines that we have.
in the case of your lathe, normally we use manual contactors,
this means no coil is neeeded. i mite what to consider that . |
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NSM
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:31 am Post subject:
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"Jamie" <jamie_5_not_valid_after_5_Please@charter.net> wrote in message
news:XC9Md.21790$8g4.14967@fe06.lga...
| Quote: | What would the voltage usually be on the coil of the contactor for
a lathe using a 3 phase motor?. In UK so single phase is 240V ac
most likely 240V, i am from the US and we use 120 normally for the
coil which also matches our resident common voltage. we do also
use 220..240 coils in Foreighn machines that we have.
in the case of your lathe, normally we use manual contactors,
this means no coil is neeeded. i mite what to consider that .
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If you use 220/380 your coil would be 380. No-one runs a neutral to a
starter just to run the coil.
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Aldo Larrabiata
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:09 am Post subject:
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- 220/380 doesn't exist anylonger. 230/400 instead.
- My experience is the opposite of your statement.
"NSM" <nowrite@to.me> a écrit dans le message news:
fafMd.98522$Ob.5382@edtnps84...
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"Jamie" <jamie_5_not_valid_after_5_Please@charter.net> wrote in message
news:XC9Md.21790$8g4.14967@fe06.lga...
What would the voltage usually be on the coil of the contactor for
a lathe using a 3 phase motor?. In UK so single phase is 240V ac
most likely 240V, i am from the US and we use 120 normally for the
coil which also matches our resident common voltage. we do also
use 220..240 coils in Foreighn machines that we have.
in the case of your lathe, normally we use manual contactors,
this means no coil is neeeded. i mite what to consider that .
If you use 220/380 your coil would be 380. No-one runs a neutral to a
starter just to run the coil.
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NSM
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:34 am Post subject:
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"Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | - 220/380 doesn't exist anylonger. 230/400 instead.
- My experience is the opposite of your statement.
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In the USA?
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N Cook
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject:
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"N Cook" <diverse2@tcp.co.antyspahm.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "golfer" <w_lundy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1107283501.867915.50150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
It could be anywhere from 12 VDC to 575 VAC. Any markings on the
coil?? Who is the contactor manufacturer??
All I know is the coil has failed, not obviously overheated but now open
circuit .
It consists of 5,200 turns of 40SWG. Heavily modified lathe with
contactor changed 20 years ago with an unknown make one.
Only the coil is in my possession, removed by owner wanting rewinding and
I
wanted some idea what
I'm likely to find on refitting the coil.
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followup - was actually 6,200 turns of 40 SWG rewound and
working - coil volts are 240V and make/model of contactor
was MTE UC15 440 50 |
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NSM
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject:
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"N Cook" <diverse2@tcp.co.antyspahm.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | followup - was actually 6,200 turns of 40 SWG rewound and
working - coil volts are 240V and make/model of contactor
was MTE UC15 440 50
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What volts are actually applied across the contactor coil?
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N Cook
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject:
Re: Contactor on 3 phase motor query |
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240 V ac
"NSM" <nowrite@to.me> wrote in message news:cn%Md.1518$L_3.366@clgrps13...
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"N Cook" <diverse2@tcp.co.antyspahm.uk> wrote in message
news:wbydnYUEoPUs5pnfRVn-3Q@tcp.co.uk...
followup - was actually 6,200 turns of 40 SWG rewound and
working - coil volts are 240V and make/model of contactor
was MTE UC15 440 50
What volts are actually applied across the contactor coil?
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N
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NSM
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:18 am Post subject:
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"N Cook" <diverse2@tcp.co.antyspahm.uk> wrote in message
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They ran a neutral to do this then? Odd.
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