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mc
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject:
Testing lead-acid gel cells |
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I have some lead-acid gel cells that have been removed from UPSes due to
aging and reduced capacity. They still charge to full voltage.
Short of actually charging them up and running them down - which would take
a long time - is there a way I can judge their quality? Some are worse than
others. Internal resistance test of some kind, maybe?
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aurgathor
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:49 am Post subject:
Re: Testing lead-acid gel cells |
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Put a significant load on them and measure
how the current changes over time.
With a correctly chosen load, 10 - 30 seconds
should be more than enough to get a good idea
about their capacity.
I normally use light bulbs as loads -- they're cheap,
easy to obtain, come in a great variety, and got a
very good overload indication and protection. :-)
"mc" <mc_no_spam@uga.edu> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have some lead-acid gel cells that have been removed from UPSes due to
aging and reduced capacity. They still charge to full voltage.
Short of actually charging them up and running them down - which would
take
a long time - is there a way I can judge their quality? Some are worse
than
others. Internal resistance test of some kind, maybe?
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:
Re: Testing lead-acid gel cells |
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"aurgathor" <spam-me@if-you.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Put a significant load on them and measure
how the current changes over time.
With a correctly chosen load, 10 - 30 seconds
should be more than enough to get a good idea
about their capacity.
I normally use light bulbs as loads -- they're cheap,
easy to obtain, come in a great variety, and got a
very good overload indication and protection. :-)
"mc" <mc_no_spam@uga.edu> wrote in message
news:4229dd9b$1@mustang.speedfactory.net...
I have some lead-acid gel cells that have been removed from UPSes
due to
aging and reduced capacity. They still charge to full voltage.
Short of actually charging them up and running them down - which
would
take
a long time - is there a way I can judge their quality? Some are
worse
than
others. Internal resistance test of some kind, maybe?
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Seems to me that the higher internal resistance means that the plate
area is much less than the fresh cell. Same goes for the capacity.
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mc
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:09 am Post subject:
Re: Testing lead-acid gel cells |
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Useful idea. Thanks.
"aurgathor" <spam-me@if-you.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Put a significant load on them and measure
how the current changes over time.
With a correctly chosen load, 10 - 30 seconds
should be more than enough to get a good idea
about their capacity.
I normally use light bulbs as loads -- they're cheap,
easy to obtain, come in a great variety, and got a
very good overload indication and protection. :-)
"mc" <mc_no_spam@uga.edu> wrote in message
news:4229dd9b$1@mustang.speedfactory.net...
I have some lead-acid gel cells that have been removed from UPSes due to
aging and reduced capacity. They still charge to full voltage.
Short of actually charging them up and running them down - which would
take
a long time - is there a way I can judge their quality? Some are worse
than
others. Internal resistance test of some kind, maybe?
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mc
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject:
Re: Testing lead-acid gel cells |
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Seems to me that the higher internal resistance means that the plate
area is much less than the fresh cell. Same goes for the capacity.
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That makes sense. I may try an internal resistance test (low-level dynamic
AC or something) and see what it reveals. |
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Ken
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject:
Re: Testing lead-acid gel cells |
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:
| Quote: | "aurgathor" <spam-me@if-you.com> wrote in message
news:1110581407.09098d343d94d30d127424c0f325a6ea@teranews...
Put a significant load on them and measure
how the current changes over time.
With a correctly chosen load, 10 - 30 seconds
should be more than enough to get a good idea
about their capacity.
I normally use light bulbs as loads -- they're cheap,
easy to obtain, come in a great variety, and got a
very good overload indication and protection. :-)
"mc" <mc_no_spam@uga.edu> wrote in message
news:4229dd9b$1@mustang.speedfactory.net...
I have some lead-acid gel cells that have been removed from UPSes
due to
aging and reduced capacity. They still charge to full voltage.
Short of actually charging them up and running them down - which
would
take
a long time - is there a way I can judge their quality? Some are
worse
than
others. Internal resistance test of some kind, maybe?
Seems to me that the higher internal resistance means that the plate
area is much less than the fresh cell. Same goes for the capacity.
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I have a question that is not related, but perhaps you posters know:
Is there adverse effect to mounting a gel cell battery in a manner other
than vertical? I see nothing on the cell that says it must remain a
certain way. |
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Peter A Forbes
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Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:31 am Post subject:
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:52:23 GMT, Ken <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | I have a question that is not related, but perhaps you posters know:
Is there adverse effect to mounting a gel cell battery in a manner other
than vertical? I see nothing on the cell that says it must remain a
certain way.
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The manufacturers own recommendations are that they can be used in any
orientation, but check that you haven't got the one make that doesn't allow
that!
Regarding testing, we always use a high-rate discharge test, at least 1C and
monitor the voltage over 1 minute to see what discharge slope we get.
While you can use open-circuit terminal voltage as a rough guide to the state of
charge, the battery must have been standing off-load or off-charge for an hour,
and it is a rough guide only.
We just shipped out a special charger for an experimental battery research
application, 0-600V @ 150A and 0-50V @ 150A, hand or PC voltage and current
control, weighs about 1100kg or just over a ton, 3-phase input 415/440V 3-wire.
We took some pictures as we were building it and will put them up on the company
website next week. I'll advise url when we get them finished.
Peter |
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