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Joel Kolstad
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject:
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"Fernando" <fjpc60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Can anybody tell me where to buy programmable portable calculator,
preferably in BASIC?
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eBay? New ones no longer exist. Your (new equipment) options are as
follows:
-- Get an HP-33S, about the only significantly programmable non-graphing
scientific calculator left.
-- Get an HP-4xx or TI-8xx programmable graphing calculators. Neither uses
BASIC natively, however. (The HPs use RPL, which is pretty nice to program
in, actually...)
-- Get a PDA. Under both the PalmOS and Windows CE, you can find many
different programming languages out there, including BASIC.
The downside of the PDA approach, of course, is the lack of a large number
of physical keys. There's a product called Qonos which is supposed to come
out 'any month now' that's effectively a PDA reference design with various
extensions including a scientific calculator keyboard; I'm looking forward
to it.
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Al Borowski
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject:
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Fernando wrote:
| Quote: | Hello,
Can anybody tell me where to buy programmable portable calculator,
preferably in BASIC?
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Where abouts are you? I think TI, HP and Casio all make them.
Al
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John Smith
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject:
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Joel Kolstad wrote:
| Quote: | "Fernando" <fjpc60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1108536178.371908@gorgo.centroin.com.br...
Can anybody tell me where to buy programmable portable calculator,
preferably in BASIC?
eBay? New ones no longer exist. Your (new equipment) options are as
follows:
-- Get an HP-33S, about the only significantly programmable non-graphing
scientific calculator left.
-- Get an HP-4xx or TI-8xx programmable graphing calculators. Neither uses
BASIC natively, however. (The HPs use RPL, which is pretty nice to program
in, actually...)
-- Get a PDA. Under both the PalmOS and Windows CE, you can find many
different programming languages out there, including BASIC.
The downside of the PDA approach, of course, is the lack of a large number
of physical keys. There's a product called Qonos which is supposed to come
out 'any month now' that's effectively a PDA reference design with various
extensions including a scientific calculator keyboard; I'm looking forward
to it.
---Joel Kolstad
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http://easycalc.sourceforge.net/
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John Larkin
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:50 pm Post subject:
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:42:46 -0300, "Fernando" <fjpc60@hotmail.com>
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| Quote: | Hello,
Can anybody tell me where to buy programmable portable calculator,
preferably in BASIC?
Tia
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Why not write Basic programs on your PC? Programmable calculator
programs are limited in function and clumsy to use.
I haven't programmed a calculator in decades, not since the HP9100.
John |
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Al Borowski
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:43 am Post subject:
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Why not write Basic programs on your PC? Programmable calculator
programs are limited in function and clumsy to use.
I haven't programmed a calculator in decades, not since the HP9100.
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So how can you comment on modern designs, when you've only used decades
old technology? :-)
Depending on the complexity of the program, I'd get a TI84 ot TI89. Both
can be programmed in basic. The HP line offer a 'basic' that really
isn't much of a basic at all (no GOTO for instance). Dunno about the casios.
Al |
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Spehro Pefhany
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:56 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:26:07 -0300, the renowned "Fernando"
<fjpc60@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I am wanting to use the calculator in flight of ultralight and it is
difficult to use a computer on board
I am wanting to know which the programmable calculators found now..
Tks
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You could buy a Windows PDA (or PDA/cellphone combo) and program it in
BASIC or Python or PL/1 or whatever.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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John Larkin
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:22 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:43:40 +1000, Al Borowski
<al.borowski@EraseThis.gmail.com> wrote:
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Why not write Basic programs on your PC? Programmable calculator
programs are limited in function and clumsy to use.
I haven't programmed a calculator in decades, not since the HP9100.
So how can you comment on modern designs, when you've only used decades
old technology? :-)
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Well, I *have* modern programmable calculators, but what with the tiny
screens and limited storage and program documentation and archiving,
they just don't make sense to program. I write Basic programs that
have friendly, colorful menus, commented internals, color graphics,
and that I can save on a backed-up hard drive. And my Pentium will
out-compute any calculator by 1000:1 or something, which is useful if
an algorithm needs a lot of iterating. I must have hundreds of little
Basic applications I've written over the years.
Basic programs are fairly portable, too; one can hack an old DOS Basic
program to be useful in, say, PowerBasic in a few minutes. Lots of
programmable-calculator programs are gone when that calculator goes
out of production.
| Quote: | Depending on the complexity of the program, I'd get a TI84 ot TI89. Both
can be programmed in basic. The HP line offer a 'basic' that really
isn't much of a basic at all (no GOTO for instance). Dunno about the casios.
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I bet none of them do file I/O, or big arrays, or accept input from
other programs.
John |
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Fernando
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:26 am Post subject:
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I am wanting to use the calculator in flight of ultralight and it is
difficult to use a computer on board
I am wanting to know which the programmable calculators found now..
Tks
"John Larkin" <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> escreveu na
mensagem news:8bu611pdvggmo0tgk7h37tge4oq5ta6q58@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:42:46 -0300, "Fernando" <fjpc60@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
Can anybody tell me where to buy programmable portable calculator,
preferably in BASIC?
Tia
Why not write Basic programs on your PC? Programmable calculator
programs are limited in function and clumsy to use.
I haven't programmed a calculator in decades, not since the HP9100.
John
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Al Borowski
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:58 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | So how can you comment on modern designs, when you've only used decades
old technology? :-)
Well, I *have* modern programmable calculators,
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Ah, I see. Sorry for the assumption.
| Quote: | but what with the tiny
screens and limited storage and program documentation and archiving,
they just don't make sense to program. I write Basic programs that
have friendly, colorful menus, commented internals, color graphics,
and that I can save on a backed-up hard drive.
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Sounds more like an application for a PDA or Laptop then. It depends on
what you want to do. A calculator will give a month or so battery life
which can be useful sometimes.
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I bet none of them do file I/O, or big arrays, or accept input from
other programs.
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In basic? I don't think so. If you want to use C then I think they all do.
Al
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TCS
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:
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On 17 Feb 2005 03:29:37 +0100, Chaos Master <renan.birck@ibestvip.com.br> wrote:
| Quote: | This is Fernando for forever:
Hello,
Can anybody tell me where to buy programmable portable calculator,
preferably in BASIC?
No BASIC, but I like HP48/49 calculators. 49G+ seems rather good with SD
card support. And RPL is easy, anyway.
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The HP71 and 75 could be programmed in BASIC.
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John Larkin
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:58:33 +1000, Al Borowski
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| Quote: | I bet none of them do file I/O, or big arrays, or accept input from
other programs.
In basic? I don't think so. If you want to use C then I think they all do.
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No, really, the 32-bit versions of PowerBasic can do gigabyte arrays,
huge programs, TCP/IP, BIOS/API calls, all that good stuff.
John |
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Al Borowski
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:
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No, really, the 32-bit versions of PowerBasic can do gigabyte arrays,
huge programs, TCP/IP, BIOS/API calls, all that good stuff.
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And you'd want to do those on a calculator because...? :)
Al |
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John Larkin
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:39:22 +1000, Al Borowski
<al.borowski@EraseThis.gmail.com> wrote:
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No, really, the 32-bit versions of PowerBasic can do gigabyte arrays,
huge programs, TCP/IP, BIOS/API calls, all that good stuff.
And you'd want to do those on a calculator because...? :)
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I wouldn't. Calculators are for arithmetic, computers are for
programs.
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Chaos Master
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:11 am Post subject:
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This is Fernando for forever:
| Quote: | Hello,
Can anybody tell me where to buy programmable portable calculator,
preferably in BASIC?
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No BASIC, but I like HP48/49 calculators. 49G+ seems rather good with SD
card support. And RPL is easy, anyway.
--
Chaos Master®, posting from Canoas, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil - 29.55° S
/ 51.11° W / GMT-2h / 15m .
"People told me I can't dress like a fairy.
I say, I'm in a rock band and I can do what the hell I want!"
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