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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject: RF Link Reply with quote

Hi, I am looking into a low cost RF solution to the following
situation:

I am designing a product that must maintain a constant communication
between device A and device B, with a range of just a few meters. I am
looking at Linx Technologies LR series. Any thoughts?

Thanks

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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: RF Link Reply with quote

On 4 Feb 2005 07:35:34 -0800, eric781@gmail.com wrote:

Quote:
Hi, I am looking into a low cost RF solution to the following
situation:

I am designing a product that must maintain a constant communication
between device A and device B, with a range of just a few meters. I am
looking at Linx Technologies LR series. Any thoughts?

Aerocom and someone else does that too, but IIRC Linx isn't FHSS, is

it?

What's your data rate? If you only need up to say, 2400 baud, maybe
4800, there's a cheaper (Tx/Rx < $10) 433.92 MHz solution.
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Mike
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: RF Link Reply with quote

eric781@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Hi, I am looking into a low cost RF solution to the following
situation:

I am designing a product that must maintain a constant communication
between device A and device B, with a range of just a few meters. I am
looking at Linx Technologies LR series. Any thoughts?

Thanks


Check this out:

http://www.okwelectronics.com/products/radiolist.html

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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: RF Link Reply with quote

Well here is the dilemma... I need to know if object A is too far from
object B, and if so will send a "1" to the chip in A. I was told that
RFID is the only technology avaible to do this easily, but RFID is way
too expensive to implement at this point. I was hoping to find another
low cost RF solution.
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: RF Link Reply with quote

eric781@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Well here is the dilemma... I need to know if object A is too far from
object B, and if so will send a "1" to the chip in A. I was told that
RFID is the only technology avaible to do this easily, but RFID is way
too expensive to implement at this point. I was hoping to find another
low cost RF solution.



Well, there are several things you could try. The easiest would probably be a
simple low-power RF signal generator, which only puts out enough power to be
measureable from your "good" distance. This has the disadvantage that simple
obstructions may give a false "too far" result of your receiver.

An other idea, much more involved, would be to send an RF pulse from B to A and
back to B, measuring the delay in nanoseconds. You perhaps could do this with a
fast microcontroller chip - enable interrupts, send RF pulse, start timer -->
interrupt happens, stop timer, timer value = delay. Since the speed of RF in air
is known, the time taken to ping-pong an RF pulse back and forth between these
two points can be turned into a physical distance.
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: RF Link Reply with quote

Thanks for your ideas!
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: RF Link Reply with quote

eric781@gmail.com wrote:
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Thanks for your ideas!

Sorry I have been out of this whole thing. Working 60 hours a week
does not leave much time for well, anything. About the RF and RFID.

The reason that the system uses RF as well as RFID is as follows:

If the system were to use simply just RF TX/RX to test for the presence
of the rider, the transmitter as well as the receiver would need to
constantly be using power. Unfortunately we do not have a lot of power
to work with on the jacket.

The benefit of using the RFID, although expensive, I believe is worth
it. With RFID you can sense for the presence of the rider without
using any power on the jacket. We can accomplish this by placing the
RFID tag in the jacket and the reader on the bike. The tag uses
absolutely zero power. The only power that would be being used would
be by the RF TX/RX sitting in idle or standby. The RF in standby uses
drastically less power than when it is actually transmitting or
recieving.

Another downside to just using RF is that with such significant power
consumption you are limited as to how long you can wear the jacket and
have the system functional until the battery needs to be
recharged/replaced. This can cause the system to fail for riders going
on rides of more than a couple of hours. This is a huge safety issue.

I hope this helps and I will try to keep up with the questions and will
add anything I can. Thanks guys.
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