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Winfield Hill
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Kryten
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject:
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Nice :-)
For a moment I thought it might be a serious post, and I was about to
mention how one shop I know had mounted a laptop innards into a picture
frame with glass at front and back. Looked nice, to my engineer's eye.
Wall-mounted PCs look easy targets for burglars, so perhaps it might be
better to have home PCs 'wired in' to the house, so that the PC is actually
under the floorboards away from thieving hands while only the keyboard and
monitor are accessible in rooms.
Hardware is easily replaced but the personal data on the hard drives is not. |
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Spehro Pefhany
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject:
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:46:02 GMT, the renowned "Kryten"
<kryten_droid_obfusticator@ntlworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Nice :-)
For a moment I thought it might be a serious post, and I was about to
mention how one shop I know had mounted a laptop innards into a picture
frame with glass at front and back. Looked nice, to my engineer's eye.
Wall-mounted PCs look easy targets for burglars, so perhaps it might be
better to have home PCs 'wired in' to the house, so that the PC is actually
under the floorboards away from thieving hands while only the keyboard and
monitor are accessible in rooms.
Hardware is easily replaced but the personal data on the hard drives is not.
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Am I the only one that removes one or more hard drive and stores them
in a safety deposit box before going on vacation?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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John Woodgate
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject:
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill <hill_a@t_rowland-
dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote (in <cu83l001l05@drn.newsguy.com>)
about 'Wall-mounted PC', on Mon, 7 Feb 2005:
| Quote: | http://82.165.25.75/~kripton/linpix/wallpc01.jpg
Bet it doesn't meet the EMC emission limits! (;-) |
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Keith Williams
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:47 pm Post subject:
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In article <eZVCgeFHP6BCFw48@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk says...
| Quote: | I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill <hill_a@t_rowland-
dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote (in <cu83l001l05@drn.newsguy.com>)
about 'Wall-mounted PC', on Mon, 7 Feb 2005:
http://82.165.25.75/~kripton/linpix/wallpc01.jpg
Bet it doesn't meet the EMC emission limits! (;-)
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It may. The FCC requires components to pass an "open box test" that
only allows a few dB for the enclosure.
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Keith |
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Joerg
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:00 am Post subject:
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Hello Spehro,
| Quote: | Am I the only one that removes one or more hard drive and stores them
in a safety deposit box before going on vacation?
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You are not the only one.
Some contracts require a bit more, for example that there is a 2nd set
of backups safely stored x many miles away from the primary location. A
few years later I was reminded why. An eerie orange glow lit up the
night skies, lots of commotion and sirens blaring. Just where the
building with the vault for my 2nd backup was someone had set the gas
tank of a car on fire. If that would have been a wood frame building, oh
boy.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com |
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Spehro Pefhany
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:43 am Post subject:
Re: Wall-mounted PC |
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:00:51 GMT, the renowned Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Hello Spehro,
Am I the only one that removes one or more hard drive and stores them
in a safety deposit box before going on vacation?
You are not the only one.
Some contracts require a bit more, for example that there is a 2nd set
of backups safely stored x many miles away from the primary location. A
few years later I was reminded why. An eerie orange glow lit up the
night skies, lots of commotion and sirens blaring. Just where the
building with the vault for my 2nd backup was someone had set the gas
tank of a car on fire. If that would have been a wood frame building, oh
boy.
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Oh, I have the backups in spades, but I'd hate to have to put a dollar
value on the time to get a brand-new machine back up to 100%. What do
you even call the loss? - it isn't so much *data* loss in the
traditional sense as loss of all the installations and probably a fair
bit of the configuration setups on scores of programs.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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John Woodgate
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:11 am Post subject:
Re: Wall-mounted PC |
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlog
DOTyou.knowwhat> wrote (in <nikf01934o3faf89ers7qio50i7k38fhpp@4ax.com>)
about 'Wall-mounted PC', on Mon, 7 Feb 2005:
| Quote: | What do
you even call the loss? - it isn't so much *data* loss in the
traditional sense as loss of all the installations and probably a fair
bit of the configuration setups on scores of programs.
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It's all 'data' in one way or another, except in your insurance policy.
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Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk |
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Joerg
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:45 am Post subject:
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Hi Spehro,
| Quote: | Oh, I have the backups in spades, but I'd hate to have to put a dollar
value on the time to get a brand-new machine back up to 100%. What do
you even call the loss? - it isn't so much *data* loss in the
traditional sense as loss of all the installations and probably a fair
bit of the configuration setups on scores of programs.
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That is why I try to keep customizing to a minimum. Whatever can go into
a data file instead of some bizarre setup registry is done with files.
For example, I do not use bookmarks at all but this stuff goes as HTML
links into a Wiki. That will easily restore simply by copying the data
back, and it can be taken on biz trips as needed.
For some programs that must store customize info in a prescribed
directory I try to fish that out and back it up as well, but with the
same directory structure it has on the PC. So it'll go back to the same
place should something break or get lost. Fishing is fairly easy by
noting down the date something was configured and then looking for files
that were written to on that day.
I find that the main job really is to stick to a consistent directory
structure between PCs.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com |
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Jim Thompson
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:56 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:45:06 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
[snip]
I use a program called "FolderMatch" to synchronize my laptop and my
main PSpice machine.
...Jim Thompson
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Spehro Pefhany
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:48 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:45:06 GMT, the renowned Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Spehro,
Oh, I have the backups in spades, but I'd hate to have to put a dollar
value on the time to get a brand-new machine back up to 100%. What do
you even call the loss? - it isn't so much *data* loss in the
traditional sense as loss of all the installations and probably a fair
bit of the configuration setups on scores of programs.
That is why I try to keep customizing to a minimum. Whatever can go into
a data file instead of some bizarre setup registry is done with files.
For example, I do not use bookmarks at all but this stuff goes as HTML
links into a Wiki. That will easily restore simply by copying the data
back, and it can be taken on biz trips as needed.
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This Wiki thing is interesting. Can you say more about it? Or perhaps
post a screen shot of something innocuous to abse?
| Quote: | For some programs that must store customize info in a prescribed
directory I try to fish that out and back it up as well, but with the
same directory structure it has on the PC. So it'll go back to the same
place should something break or get lost. Fishing is fairly easy by
noting down the date something was configured and then looking for files
that were written to on that day.
I find that the main job really is to stick to a consistent directory
structure between PCs.
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Yes, that helps.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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Kryten
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:52 am Post subject:
Re: Wall-mounted PC |
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"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
news:id8f019f7lbcv0dmojk2kl619rnqdb7clj@4ax.com...
| Quote: | Am I the only one that removes one or more hard drive and stores them
in a safety deposit box before going on vacation?
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No, I used to do that when I had a floortop PC.
Now I just take my laptop on vacation with me.
However I had considered embedding my PC under the floorboards or in the
loft, partly for security and partly to make a silent working environment.
The only problems were the removable media (FD and CD) though perhaps these
could be done with USB. |
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Joerg
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:14 am Post subject:
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Hello Spehro,
| Quote: | This Wiki thing is interesting. Can you say more about it? Or perhaps
post a screen shot of something innocuous to abse?
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Sorry, most of that is not suitable for publication. But it's simple.
There is lots of special Wiki software and some is free but I just
didn't want to add yet another editor. So I took the "Composer" in
Mozilla and started expanding a "local" web site that I had done with
Word before. It cannot be accessed from anywhere past the HW firewall.
It looks similar to my web site but much more technical. The emphasis is
on technical information, the glitz factor is zero.
On that local site topics, pages, subdirectories get started and
information is often copied into it, like when I find a great
publication on the web. Or when Winfield mentions a new hot rod
transistor. This keeps growing and is searchable but most of the time
there is no need to search. There is one downside: Composer does not
easily jump from hyperlinks unless you right-click. So quite often I use
the browser to read up and Composer to write.
I started it in Word which did an excellent job. Then some day it
crashed badly and never was able to jump hyperlinks properly. Almost as
if it had a stroke. So I ditched it and went to Mozilla. I am using a
similar system on paper since the 80's but now I am migrating this to
files because the number of binders is becoming a bit heavy.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com |
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Joerg
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Spehro Pefhany
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: Wall-mounted PC |
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 01:14:26 GMT, the renowned Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Hello Spehro,
This Wiki thing is interesting. Can you say more about it? Or perhaps
post a screen shot of something innocuous to abse?
Sorry, most of that is not suitable for publication. But it's simple.
There is lots of special Wiki software and some is free but I just
didn't want to add yet another editor. So I took the "Composer" in
Mozilla and started expanding a "local" web site that I had done with
Word before. It cannot be accessed from anywhere past the HW firewall.
It looks similar to my web site but much more technical. The emphasis is
on technical information, the glitz factor is zero.
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Okay, thanks, I understand. I have a small version of that, but due
partly to the fact I don't have a web server running on my PC I've not
really expanded it.
| Quote: | On that local site topics, pages, subdirectories get started and
information is often copied into it, like when I find a great
publication on the web. Or when Winfield mentions a new hot rod
transistor. This keeps growing and is searchable but most of the time
there is no need to search. There is one downside: Composer does not
easily jump from hyperlinks unless you right-click. So quite often I use
the browser to read up and Composer to write.
I started it in Word which did an excellent job. Then some day it
crashed badly and never was able to jump hyperlinks properly. Almost as
if it had a stroke. So I ditched it and went to Mozilla. I am using a
similar system on paper since the 80's but now I am migrating this to
files because the number of binders is becoming a bit heavy.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com
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Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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