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GS
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject:
What is exactly "System-on-chip"? |
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I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
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Jim Thompson
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject:
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On 6 Feb 2005 08:09:07 -0800, "GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
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Just like it sounds... a mixture of analog and digital all on a single
chip.
...Jim Thompson
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Winfield Hill
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject:
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GS wrote...
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I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
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I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.
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keith
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject:
Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? |
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 08:09:07 -0800, GS wrote:
| Quote: | I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
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It's a, mostly failed, attempt to use the transistors that have become
available as semiconductor processes have shrunk. Sweep the whole
"system" onto the "chip". The attempts I've seen involve having a menu of
macros (most hard macros) that can be plopped down on a chip to solve a
particular problem with minimum engineering. Unfortunately, the mask
costs for advanced processes are prohibitive for most applications.
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martin griffith
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:39 pm Post subject:
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On 6 Feb 2005 08:09:07 -0800, in sci.electronics.design "GS"
<globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
maybe this will help |
www.psocdeveloper.com
martin
Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank. |
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Jim Thompson
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject:
Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? |
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On 6 Feb 2005 08:33:48 -0800, Winfield Hill
<hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:
| Quote: | GS wrote...
I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.
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Isn't that SOS, the cleaner, or S-O-S, the food ?:-)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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keith
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject:
Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? |
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:51:57 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
| Quote: | On 6 Feb 2005 08:33:48 -0800, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:
GS wrote...
I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.
Isn't that SOS, the cleaner, or S-O-S, the food ?:-)
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Nah, SOS has been replaced by SOI. The second 'S' was too expensive.
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Jim Thompson
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject:
Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? |
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:17:52 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:51:57 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On 6 Feb 2005 08:33:48 -0800, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:
GS wrote...
I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.
Isn't that SOS, the cleaner, or S-O-S, the food ?:-)
Nah, SOS has been replaced by SOI. The second 'S' was too expensive.
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In S-O-S, the second "S" stands for "shingle" ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Spehro Pefhany
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:22 am Post subject:
Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? |
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:57:29 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:17:52 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:51:57 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On 6 Feb 2005 08:33:48 -0800, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:
GS wrote...
I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.
Isn't that SOS, the cleaner, or S-O-S, the food ?:-)
Nah, SOS has been replaced by SOI. The second 'S' was too expensive.
In S-O-S, the second "S" stands for "shingle" ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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keith
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:25 am Post subject:
Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? |
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:57:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:17:52 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:51:57 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On 6 Feb 2005 08:33:48 -0800, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:
GS wrote...
I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.
Isn't that SOS, the cleaner, or S-O-S, the food ?:-)
Nah, SOS has been replaced by SOI. The second 'S' was too expensive.
In S-O-S, the second "S" stands for "shingle" ;-)
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Do you only think about "food"? <sets one up>
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Jim Thompson
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:33 am Post subject:
Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? |
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 14:22:54 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:57:29 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:17:52 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:51:57 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On 6 Feb 2005 08:33:48 -0800, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:
GS wrote...
I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.
Isn't that SOS, the cleaner, or S-O-S, the food ?:-)
Nah, SOS has been replaced by SOI. The second 'S' was too expensive.
In S-O-S, the second "S" stands for "shingle" ;-)
...Jim Thompson
http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/photos/Shit_on_a_shingle.jpg
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Oooooh! Such a picture! Still turns my stomach!
...Jim Thompson
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:22 am Post subject:
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Winfield Hill wrote:
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GS wrote...
I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.
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CMOS gets clogged drains?
:)
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:24 am Post subject:
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Jim Thompson wrote:
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:17:52 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:51:57 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On 6 Feb 2005 08:33:48 -0800, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:
GS wrote...
I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.
Isn't that SOS, the cleaner, or S-O-S, the food ?:-)
Nah, SOS has been replaced by SOI. The second 'S' was too expensive.
In S-O-S, the second "S" stands for "shingle" ;-)
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I think the acronym would be S-O-C. Most of my SOCs get lost in the
washing machine, not the sink.
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Joerg
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:18 am Post subject:
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Hello Jim,
| Quote: | I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
Just like it sounds... a mixture of analog and digital all on a single
chip.
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Sometimes, at least for me, there is too much marketing glitz in it when
it comes to the programmable stuff. When looking at the specs of some
opamp modules what I thought to be a nice motorcycle looked more like a
moped. Lots of offset, little unity gain BW. It may be ok for the more
mundane tasks though.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com |
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Tim Wescott
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:53 am Post subject:
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Joerg wrote:
| Quote: | Hello Jim,
I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.
Just like it sounds... a mixture of analog and digital all on a single
chip.
Sometimes, at least for me, there is too much marketing glitz in it when
it comes to the programmable stuff. When looking at the specs of some
opamp modules what I thought to be a nice motorcycle looked more like a
moped. Lots of offset, little unity gain BW. It may be ok for the more
mundane tasks though.
Whenever I've looked at the programmable analog stuff it's always seemed |
to be lots of sizzle and not much steak at all. I wonder if the stuff
has actually made it into any products?
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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