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Joerg
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? Reply with quote

Hello Tim,

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Whenever I've looked at the programmable analog stuff it's always
seemed to be lots of sizzle and not much steak at all. I wonder if
the stuff has actually made it into any products?


I can only speak for med here but so far I have never seen any of these
in circuits. And I get to look at a few designs from other engineers
when called out for an EMC mitigation.

Another factor is cost. If something costs a Dollar or more it better
has a whole lot of 'steak' and not just 'sizzle'. It is amazing how
cheap a totally discrete design becomes once in mass production. A
Dollar buys dozens of parts including SMT machine time. For a little
over a dime we can buy an LM324. Contains four nice opamps and with its
input CM range including the negative rail it can do a whole lot of
chores in a single supply design. A typical run-of-the-mills BJT is two
cents or less, a nice FET four to five cents. Circuits with these run
circles around a lot of the 'modular approaches'.

A lot of times people say that this is old stuff. The manufacturers
clearly know better since they migrate these devices to TSSOP. Even ye
olde LM324.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? Reply with quote

"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:57:29 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:17:52 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:51:57 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On 6 Feb 2005 08:33:48 -0800, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

GS wrote...

I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols
processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what
is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be
used?.

I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.

Isn't that SOS, the cleaner, or S-O-S, the food ?:-)

Nah, SOS has been replaced by SOI. The second 'S' was too expensive.

In S-O-S, the second "S" stands for "shingle" ;-)

...Jim Thompson

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/photos/Shit_on_a_shingle.jpg


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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http://www.speff.com


What the hell was that pink stuff?
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Spehro Pefhany
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? Reply with quote

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:34:14 -0000, the renowned "corlioni1976"
<corlioni1976REMOVE@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

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What the hell was that pink stuff?

http://www.seabeecook.com/cookery/recipes/chipb1910.htm
http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_uncle_sams_shit_on_a_shingle.php


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

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keith
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: What is exactly "System-on-chip"? Reply with quote

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:22:30 -0800, Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:

Quote:
Winfield Hill wrote:

GS wrote...

I know many embedded systems like Cellphones, gameboy and all. Each
embedded system contains a Microprocessor (ARM or motorols processor)
and RAM, Flash ROM, DSP chip interface to main processor). But what is
this System-on-chip?. How it will be used and where it will be used?.

I think it has something to do with the kitchen sink.

CMOS gets clogged drains?

Yes, and SOS is the source of the clogs.

--
Keith
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