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PeterCB
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: A question concerning alarm sensors Reply with quote

"Old Dad Smith" <oldmistersmith@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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PeterCB wrote:

What are your intentions for response?

To alert the neighbours. On balance, I think that I've got more chance
of a faster response than signalling the police.

Not a criticism - just my personal experience, that's all.

Well you must have good neighbours then :)

Due to the fact that most people ignore alarms
these days and probably nearly all people
ignore persistant false alarming - I'd make
sure I fit good quality equipment and detectors.

It only has to go off a couple of times and even
your best neighbours will be saying, "freds alarm's
going off again!"

Going back to your original question.
I'd say you've got enough detectors and
the advice from others in this thread is good
also.

Personally, I'd only fit shock sensors if I can
conceal the wiring without too much fuss or
if I'm ready to decorate. Door contacts -
probably only your front door needed.

Good luck and keep the false alarms to
none otherwise it's a costly and pointless
exercise.

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Andrew Gabriel
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: A question concerning alarm sensors Reply with quote

In article <LJBve.4848$5D4.2681@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>,
"PeterCB" <no.mail@please> writes:
Quote:

Well you must have good neighbours then :)

Due to the fact that most people ignore alarms
these days and probably nearly all people
ignore persistant false alarming - I'd make
sure I fit good quality equipment and detectors.

It only has to go off a couple of times and even
your best neighbours will be saying, "freds alarm's
going off again!"

Good luck and keep the false alarms to
none otherwise it's a costly and pointless
exercise.

With a new DIY install, I would suggest not connecting the
siren signal to the external sounder initially. If there's
no sounder in the panel, to start with just connect an
internal sounder so you know you've set it off. Even if
the alarm itself has no faults, you may well trigger it
a few times until you get used to using it. When you've
had some period of no false alarms, then connect the siren
to the external sounder. If the external siren has flashing
LEDs and/or strobe, you could connect it up for these
initially -- just leave off the siren connection.

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Andrew Gabriel
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Andrew Gabriel
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: A question concerning alarm sensors Reply with quote

In article <S%Eve.7359$zM2.1436@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> writes:
Quote:

If you have to fit the dual-tecs over Radiators then I suppose that the
smaller radiators are the best to fit over.

I've got a Guardall Astra Micra S-8 dual-tech over a large radiator,
and it works fine. However, the radiator is on a condensing boiler,
and gets nowhere near as hot as radiators on conventional central
heating boilers.

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Andrew Gabriel

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BIG NIGE
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: A question concerning alarm sensors Reply with quote

"PeterCB" <no.mail@please> wrote in message
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"Old Dad Smith" <oldmistersmith@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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PeterCB wrote:

Door contacts - probably only your front door needed.


I agree with PeterCB on the front door contact - especially as there is no
cover in that area.

As for the other doors - you could fit contacts if you wanted a chime option
when a door is opened.

BTW What control panel have you in mind.
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BIG NIGE
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: A question concerning alarm sensors Reply with quote

"PeterCB" <no.mail@please> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Old Dad Smith" <oldmistersmith@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1119781118.483304.70550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
PeterCB wrote:

What are your intentions for response?

To alert the neighbours. On balance, I think that I've got more chance
of a faster response than signalling the police.

Not a criticism - just my personal experience, that's all.

Well you must have good neighbours then :)

Due to the fact that most people ignore alarms
these days and probably nearly all people
ignore persistant false alarming - I'd make
sure I fit good quality equipment and detectors.

It only has to go off a couple of times and even
your best neighbours will be saying, "freds alarm's
going off again!"

Going back to your original question.
I'd say you've got enough detectors and
the advice from others in this thread is good
also.

Personally, I'd only fit shock sensors if I can
conceal the wiring without too much fuss or
if I'm ready to decorate. Door contacts -
probably only your front door needed.

Good luck and keep the false alarms to
none otherwise it's a costly and pointless
exercise.


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BIG NIGE
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: A question concerning alarm sensors Reply with quote

"Old Dad Smith" <oldmistersmith@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1119781118.483304.70550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
PeterCB wrote:

What are your intentions for response?

To alert the neighbours. On balance, I think that I've got more chance
of a faster response than signalling the police.

Just as well because if you wanted Police response you would have to have a
Professionally Installed Monitored alarm system which would cost a lot more
PLUS annual Monitoring & Maintenance Fees.

If you have to fit the dual-tecs over Radiators then I suppose that the
smaller radiators are the best to fit over.

I must admit that I have never had to design a system where there are 4
radiators in one room (especially in the corners).
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Old Dad Smith
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: A question concerning alarm sensors Reply with quote

BIG NIGE wrote:
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BTW What control panel have you in mind.

Honeywell (Ademco) Galaxy 60.

Ideally, I would like to install the sensor/keypad cables myself, and
then let an installer do the hardware. I doubt if Ademco will allow me
to buy the Galaxy direct from them.

I like the Galaxy 60 because I can use it as a quasi-home automation
controller.
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Andrew Gabriel
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: A question concerning alarm sensors Reply with quote

In article <1119898030.496140.175280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"Old Dad Smith" <oldmistersmith@yahoo.ca> writes:
Quote:
Honeywell (Ademco) Galaxy 60.

Ideally, I would like to install the sensor/keypad cables myself, and
then let an installer do the hardware. I doubt if Ademco will allow me
to buy the Galaxy direct from them.

I like the Galaxy 60 because I can use it as a quasi-home automation
controller.

Comfort is good for that, and they do supply and support DIY
installs, as well as professional installs. Also, they make
all the interfacing specs available, so quite a lot of people
design their own kit to interface to the alarm. However, it's
not cheap.

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Andrew Gabriel
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