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SuperWWTBAM04
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Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:06 am Post subject:
Another battery idea |
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Does anyone have any way (any at all, no matter the difficulty) to recharge
non-rechargeable alkaline batteries? I'm going to be on a trip for 3 months and
will have no source of batteries available (batteries are prohibited in the
area due to pollution concerns), and need them pretty desperately. Other than
batteries I will have any electronics gear to use, along with AC power, to
recharge the batteries. Please help. The country also forbids importing of
Nickel, Cadmium, Lead, and Mercury, so Pb-acid, NiCd and NiMH batteries are off
limits.
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Robert Baer
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Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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SuperWWTBAM04 wrote:
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Does anyone have any way (any at all, no matter the difficulty) to recharge
non-rechargeable alkaline batteries? I'm going to be on a trip for 3 months and
will have no source of batteries available (batteries are prohibited in the
area due to pollution concerns), and need them pretty desperately. Other than
batteries I will have any electronics gear to use, along with AC power, to
recharge the batteries. Please help. The country also forbids importing of
Nickel, Cadmium, Lead, and Mercury, so Pb-acid, NiCd and NiMH batteries are off
limits.
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With strict pollution concerns, it is a wonder they allow anything
living to exist there!
Do you have any idea as to how *bad* trees are in giving off all kinds
of organic poisons?
And what about the crap and farts of all of the animals and people? |
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Emad Khader
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Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:01 am Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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Alkaline batteries can be recharged. It is just their charging regime has to
be tightly controlled to prevent overheating and permanent damage.
I use a charger with a selection switch to choose between NiCd and Alkaline.
It charges upto 4 cells at a time. It is sold by SLM Inc of Gloversville, NY
12078 under the name of BuddyL. Cost was <$30.
My own experience with recharging Alkalines is that it generally works. The
cells are not recharged to new condition but they are recharged. 5-10
recharge cycles seem possible.
Emad.
"SuperWWTBAM04" <superwwtbam04@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20041025000654.29577.00001306@mb-m05.news.cs.com...
| Quote: | Does anyone have any way (any at all, no matter the difficulty) to
recharge
non-rechargeable alkaline batteries? I'm going to be on a trip for 3
months and
will have no source of batteries available (batteries are prohibited in
the
area due to pollution concerns), and need them pretty desperately. Other
than
batteries I will have any electronics gear to use, along with AC power, to
recharge the batteries. Please help. The country also forbids importing of
Nickel, Cadmium, Lead, and Mercury, so Pb-acid, NiCd and NiMH batteries
are off
limits. |
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Aplin17
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Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:42 am Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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actually all batteries are rechargeable; rechargerable batteries are a
marketing ploy and thus a scam. |
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Karl Uppiano
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Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:55 am Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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"Aplin17" <aplin17@cs.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | actually all batteries are rechargeable; rechargerable batteries are a
marketing ploy and thus a scam.
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I think that is a gross oversimplification. |
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Robert Baer
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Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:14 pm Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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Aplin17 wrote:
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actually all batteries are rechargeable; rechargerable batteries are a
marketing ploy and thus a scam.
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Bullshit!
You obviously do not know what you are talking about.
Take a few chemistry classes! |
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Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:39 am Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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On 25 Oct 2004 22:42:52 GMT, aplin17@cs.com (Aplin17) wrote:
| Quote: | actually all batteries are rechargeable; rechargerable batteries are a
marketing ploy and thus a scam.
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Very inaccurate and dangerous advice my friend.
For the original poster, there are rechargeable alkline batteries,
but they have a rather different chemistry than regular batteries.
The market for them wasn't so great since they were somewhat
expensive, so-so capacity and had limited recharges.
-Chris |
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Robert Baer
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Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:31 pm Post subject:
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chris@nospam.com wrote:
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On 25 Oct 2004 22:42:52 GMT, aplin17@cs.com (Aplin17) wrote:
actually all batteries are rechargeable; rechargerable batteries are a
marketing ploy and thus a scam.
Very inaccurate and dangerous advice my friend.
For the original poster, there are rechargeable alkline batteries,
but they have a rather different chemistry than regular batteries.
The market for them wasn't so great since they were somewhat
expensive, so-so capacity and had limited recharges.
-Chris
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I have used some for 2-3 years before i had to toss them.
They are superb for standby use, and seem to be useable for at least 5
years, based on initial and present characteristics.
Even tho the cost seems high, so far they have paid for themselves
relative to buying Leclance or ordinary alkalines. |
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Aplin17
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Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:09 am Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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You are a liar! I've had regular alkaline batteries last longer reletive to
cost! |
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Karl Uppiano
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Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:35 am Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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"Aplin17" <aplin17@cs.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | You are a liar! I've had regular alkaline batteries last longer reletive
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cost!
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Lying implies telling deliberate falsehoods intended to mislead. Do you
really think he's lying? Is it possible he is simply mistaken? Is it even
possible that what he says is true, and your experience is simply different
in your application? |
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Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:03 am Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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On 27 Oct 2004 22:09:30 GMT, aplin17@cs.com (Aplin17) wrote:
| Quote: | You are a liar! I've had regular alkaline batteries last longer reletive to
cost!
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Are you always this exciteable, or just when you miss you nap time?
Can you perhaps provide evidence that recharging standard alkalines is
safe and practical? While I have heard some anecdotal stories that
standard alklines can be partially recharged, most of these stories
also mention a few batteries that leaked or overheated. Not terrible
safe.
I agree that manufacturers make loads of money on non-rechargeable
batteries. That's certainly an incentive to no advertise or even
design in rechargability. Their design criteria is towards battery
life with zero concern for rechargeability.
However, if standard alkalines were indeed rechargeable a handful of
times and the process was safe enough to market - then some third
party would have long since marketed a charger.
Are you sure you're not related to the KellyClarkonTV twit who keeps
asking silly questions about blowing things up or recharging battery
at excess current levels?
-Chris |
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Robert Baer
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Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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Aplin17 wrote:
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You are a liar! I've had regular alkaline batteries last longer reletive to
cost!
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What i said is not a lie; it is fact based on personal experience.
And i am *still* using a number of the original Renewal (TM) batteries
from the time they were first commonly available (and see no
deteriation).
BTW, your comment has *no* reference..."regular alkaline batteries
last longer" than what other type?
Has no meaning. |
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Warren Weber
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Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:20 am Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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"SuperWWTBAM04" <superwwtbam04@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20041025000654.29577.00001306@mb-m05.news.cs.com...
| Quote: | Does anyone have any way (any at all, no matter the difficulty) to
recharge
non-rechargeable alkaline batteries? I'm going to be on a trip for 3
months and
will have no source of batteries available (batteries are prohibited in
the
area due to pollution concerns), and need them pretty desperately. Other
than
batteries I will have any electronics gear to use, along with AC power, to
recharge the batteries. Please help. The country also forbids importing of
Nickel, Cadmium, Lead, and Mercury, so Pb-acid, NiCd and NiMH batteries
are off
limits.
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I recharge them (9 volt) at a limit of 10ma. As long as they are not
dicharged be low 6 volts. Have much better results with Duracell over
Energizer but I may not have paid attention to actual discharged voltage. I
run a series of diodes and LED's to get proper ma value. Works for me. I
don't know voltage of batteries you are using, so your ratings may be
different. W W |
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Ross Herbert
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Another battery idea |
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You conveniently forgot to mention which backward country you were
visiting.
On 25 Oct 2004 04:06:54 GMT, superwwtbam04@cs.com (SuperWWTBAM04)
wrote:
| Quote: | Does anyone have any way (any at all, no matter the difficulty) to recharge
non-rechargeable alkaline batteries? I'm going to be on a trip for 3 months and
will have no source of batteries available (batteries are prohibited in the
area due to pollution concerns), and need them pretty desperately. Other than
batteries I will have any electronics gear to use, along with AC power, to
recharge the batteries. Please help. The country also forbids importing of
Nickel, Cadmium, Lead, and Mercury, so Pb-acid, NiCd and NiMH batteries are off
limits. |
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