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r_mervart
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:46 am Post subject:
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I wonder if there is such a thing.
My current system is wired but I would like to extend it to a detached
garage. Is there a control panel that would have functionality similar to
Scantronic 9488+ but in addition
a] had a wirefree interface to at least one zone that could be designated as
a second entry/exit
b] had interface for a wirefree remote keypad
c] had at least 2 part set capability
In other words I would not need to have a cable between house and garage.
There is mains in the garage.
Thanks
roman
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jackcsg
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:18 am Post subject:
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You'd be harder pressed to find a control panel that doesn't these days.
Almost every control panel on the Market has hybrid capability
(wired/wireless), and partitioning (Area Arming/Disarming).
Jack
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I wonder if there is such a thing.
My current system is wired but I would like to extend it to a detached
garage. Is there a control panel that would have functionality similar to
Scantronic 9488+ but in addition
a] had a wirefree interface to at least one zone that could be designated
as
a second entry/exit
b] had interface for a wirefree remote keypad
c] had at least 2 part set capability
In other words I would not need to have a cable between house and garage.
There is mains in the garage.
Thanks
roman
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r_mervart
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:35 am Post subject:
Re: wired/wireless system control panel |
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As far as partitioning is concerned your statement does not surprise me too
much but the hybrid capability?
I did not think there are many/any panels that would allow me to connect to
it
a] an existing wired system with 4 zones & PA zone + siren
b] additional zone and keypad, both remotely and wirelessly
Two panels often recommended to me are The Gardtec GT816 and Scantronic
9651 but I did not think they, for example, would be particularly suitable
for trying to do b] ?
roman
"jackcsg" <nospam@forgetit.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | You'd be harder pressed to find a control panel that doesn't these days.
Almost every control panel on the Market has hybrid capability
(wired/wireless), and partitioning (Area Arming/Disarming).
Jack
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1QcHd.384$GC1.318@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
I wonder if there is such a thing.
My current system is wired but I would like to extend it to a detached
garage. Is there a control panel that would have functionality similar
to
Scantronic 9488+ but in addition
a] had a wirefree interface to at least one zone that could be
designated
as
a second entry/exit
b] had interface for a wirefree remote keypad
c] had at least 2 part set capability
In other words I would not need to have a cable between house and
garage.
There is mains in the garage.
Thanks
roman
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jackcsg
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:26 am Post subject:
Re: wired/wireless system control panel |
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In the UK, I couldn't say it wouldn't be hard to find. Here in the States,
you'd have a better selection. The Manufacturer I use, could handle just
about anything you could through at it. Including ALL control panel
functions from a wireless PDA. Wired or wireless, and even talk to several
manufacturers existing equipment. You might look at Ademco, in your neck of
the woods, it's probably more accessible to DIY'ers, and I'm sure a few
others will chime in with some other suggestions.
Jack
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | As far as partitioning is concerned your statement does not surprise me
too
much but the hybrid capability?
I did not think there are many/any panels that would allow me to connect
to
it
a] an existing wired system with 4 zones & PA zone + siren
b] additional zone and keypad, both remotely and wirelessly
Two panels often recommended to me are The Gardtec GT816 and Scantronic
9651 but I did not think they, for example, would be particularly
suitable
for trying to do b] ?
roman
"jackcsg" <nospam@forgetit.com> wrote in message
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You'd be harder pressed to find a control panel that doesn't these days.
Almost every control panel on the Market has hybrid capability
(wired/wireless), and partitioning (Area Arming/Disarming).
Jack
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1QcHd.384$GC1.318@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
I wonder if there is such a thing.
My current system is wired but I would like to extend it to a detached
garage. Is there a control panel that would have functionality similar
to
Scantronic 9488+ but in addition
a] had a wirefree interface to at least one zone that could be
designated
as
a second entry/exit
b] had interface for a wirefree remote keypad
c] had at least 2 part set capability
In other words I would not need to have a cable between house and
garage.
There is mains in the garage.
Thanks
roman
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BIG NIGE
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:05 am Post subject:
Re: wired/wireless system control panel |
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You can certainly get radio transmitters & receivers made by Scantronic that
will work the Zone.
I have never looked for a wireless remote keypad so I cant comment on that.
But i would doubt that you can get one for your 9448+.
Heres a thought though:-
Get a new 9651 with RKP & fit it in your house.
Repair your old 9448+ keypad and fit it with sensors in your garage. Wire a
wireless transmitter (via a relay) to the siren output on the 9448+
Wire the receiver to a 24 Hour zone on the 9651.
This will give you ALL the option that you require + some others.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1QcHd.384$GC1.318@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
| Quote: | I wonder if there is such a thing.
My current system is wired but I would like to extend it to a detached
garage. Is there a control panel that would have functionality similar to
Scantronic 9488+ but in addition
a] had a wirefree interface to at least one zone that could be designated
as
a second entry/exit
b] had interface for a wirefree remote keypad
c] had at least 2 part set capability
In other words I would not need to have a cable between house and garage.
There is mains in the garage.
Thanks
roman
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r_mervart
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject:
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It would be an option but for the 9448+.panel. I had it opened, but the
contacts are pretty bad. It looks that this panel has developed fault, it
feels quite warm where the keypad is for start. I shall not persevere with
the panel and get a new one.
Thanks
Roman
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
news:DOWHd.333$PZ1.185@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
| Quote: | You can certainly get radio transmitters & receivers made by Scantronic
that
will work the Zone.
I have never looked for a wireless remote keypad so I cant comment on
that.
But i would doubt that you can get one for your 9448+.
Heres a thought though:-
Get a new 9651 with RKP & fit it in your house.
Repair your old 9448+ keypad and fit it with sensors in your garage. Wire
a
wireless transmitter (via a relay) to the siren output on the 9448+
Wire the receiver to a 24 Hour zone on the 9651.
This will give you ALL the option that you require + some others.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1QcHd.384$GC1.318@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
I wonder if there is such a thing.
My current system is wired but I would like to extend it to a detached
garage. Is there a control panel that would have functionality similar
to
Scantronic 9488+ but in addition
a] had a wirefree interface to at least one zone that could be
designated
as
a second entry/exit
b] had interface for a wirefree remote keypad
c] had at least 2 part set capability
In other words I would not need to have a cable between house and
garage.
There is mains in the garage.
Thanks
roman
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BIG NIGE
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:14 am Post subject:
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Fair enough. I am surprised that the keypad is beyond repair.
Dont assume that the system is faulty because of it being warm - some
components do get warm, those that get HOT usually have Heatsinks on them to
carry away the heat.
The 9448 is renowned for leaving what apears to be a scorch mark up the wall
near top left of the panel. All this is, is the heat from the heatsink
venting through a hole at the rear dragging dirt from the atmosphere with it
and depositing the dirt on the wall.
You could of course if you wish buy two new 9651s and connect as previously
suggested.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:P74Jd.249$8a2.145@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
| Quote: | It would be an option but for the 9448+.panel. I had it opened, but the
contacts are pretty bad. It looks that this panel has developed fault, it
feels quite warm where the keypad is for start. I shall not persevere with
the panel and get a new one.
Thanks
Roman
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
news:DOWHd.333$PZ1.185@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
You can certainly get radio transmitters & receivers made by Scantronic
that
will work the Zone.
I have never looked for a wireless remote keypad so I cant comment on
that.
But i would doubt that you can get one for your 9448+.
Heres a thought though:-
Get a new 9651 with RKP & fit it in your house.
Repair your old 9448+ keypad and fit it with sensors in your garage.
Wire
a
wireless transmitter (via a relay) to the siren output on the 9448+
Wire the receiver to a 24 Hour zone on the 9651.
This will give you ALL the option that you require + some others.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1QcHd.384$GC1.318@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
I wonder if there is such a thing.
My current system is wired but I would like to extend it to a detached
garage. Is there a control panel that would have functionality similar
to
Scantronic 9488+ but in addition
a] had a wirefree interface to at least one zone that could be
designated
as
a second entry/exit
b] had interface for a wirefree remote keypad
c] had at least 2 part set capability
In other words I would not need to have a cable between house and
garage.
There is mains in the garage.
Thanks
roman
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r_mervart
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:46 am Post subject:
Re: wired/wireless system control panel |
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I might in the end just get a new panel, such as 9651 or equivalent, and a
wired remote keypad and sensor(s).
After all the detached garage is only just detached so the cable run will be
short and it will give me all the flexibility needed.
Thanks,
Roman
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
news:wGcJd.652$Ht4.520@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
| Quote: | Fair enough. I am surprised that the keypad is beyond repair.
Dont assume that the system is faulty because of it being warm - some
components do get warm, those that get HOT usually have Heatsinks on them
to
carry away the heat.
The 9448 is renowned for leaving what apears to be a scorch mark up the
wall
near top left of the panel. All this is, is the heat from the heatsink
venting through a hole at the rear dragging dirt from the atmosphere with
it
and depositing the dirt on the wall.
You could of course if you wish buy two new 9651s and connect as
previously
suggested.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:P74Jd.249$8a2.145@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
It would be an option but for the 9448+.panel. I had it opened, but the
contacts are pretty bad. It looks that this panel has developed fault,
it
feels quite warm where the keypad is for start. I shall not persevere
with
the panel and get a new one.
Thanks
Roman
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
news:DOWHd.333$PZ1.185@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
You can certainly get radio transmitters & receivers made by
Scantronic
that
will work the Zone.
I have never looked for a wireless remote keypad so I cant comment on
that.
But i would doubt that you can get one for your 9448+.
Heres a thought though:-
Get a new 9651 with RKP & fit it in your house.
Repair your old 9448+ keypad and fit it with sensors in your garage.
Wire
a
wireless transmitter (via a relay) to the siren output on the 9448+
Wire the receiver to a 24 Hour zone on the 9651.
This will give you ALL the option that you require + some others.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1QcHd.384$GC1.318@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
I wonder if there is such a thing.
My current system is wired but I would like to extend it to a
detached
garage. Is there a control panel that would have functionality
similar
to
Scantronic 9488+ but in addition
a] had a wirefree interface to at least one zone that could be
designated
as
a second entry/exit
b] had interface for a wirefree remote keypad
c] had at least 2 part set capability
In other words I would not need to have a cable between house and
garage.
There is mains in the garage.
Thanks
roman
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BIG NIGE
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject:
Re: wired/wireless system control panel |
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Before you make your final decision check prices on complete 9651 with 9930
RKP and price of separate 9930 RKP
There may not be as much price difference between separate RKP and a
complete system as you may imagine.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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I might in the end just get a new panel, such as 9651 or equivalent, and a
wired remote keypad and sensor(s).
After all the detached garage is only just detached so the cable run will
be
short and it will give me all the flexibility needed.
Thanks,
Roman
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
news:wGcJd.652$Ht4.520@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
Fair enough. I am surprised that the keypad is beyond repair.
Dont assume that the system is faulty because of it being warm - some
components do get warm, those that get HOT usually have Heatsinks on
them
to
carry away the heat.
The 9448 is renowned for leaving what apears to be a scorch mark up the
wall
near top left of the panel. All this is, is the heat from the heatsink
venting through a hole at the rear dragging dirt from the atmosphere
with
it
and depositing the dirt on the wall.
You could of course if you wish buy two new 9651s and connect as
previously
suggested.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:P74Jd.249$8a2.145@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
It would be an option but for the 9448+.panel. I had it opened, but
the
contacts are pretty bad. It looks that this panel has developed fault,
it
feels quite warm where the keypad is for start. I shall not persevere
with
the panel and get a new one.
Thanks
Roman
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
news:DOWHd.333$PZ1.185@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
You can certainly get radio transmitters & receivers made by
Scantronic
that
will work the Zone.
I have never looked for a wireless remote keypad so I cant comment
on
that.
But i would doubt that you can get one for your 9448+.
Heres a thought though:-
Get a new 9651 with RKP & fit it in your house.
Repair your old 9448+ keypad and fit it with sensors in your garage.
Wire
a
wireless transmitter (via a relay) to the siren output on the 9448+
Wire the receiver to a 24 Hour zone on the 9651.
This will give you ALL the option that you require + some others.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1QcHd.384$GC1.318@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
I wonder if there is such a thing.
My current system is wired but I would like to extend it to a
detached
garage. Is there a control panel that would have functionality
similar
to
Scantronic 9488+ but in addition
a] had a wirefree interface to at least one zone that could be
designated
as
a second entry/exit
b] had interface for a wirefree remote keypad
c] had at least 2 part set capability
In other words I would not need to have a cable between house and
garage.
There is mains in the garage.
Thanks
roman
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BIG NIGE
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:09 pm Post subject:
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PS Make sure that any external cabling is properly conduited for physical
protection.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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I might in the end just get a new panel, such as 9651 or equivalent, and a
wired remote keypad and sensor(s).
After all the detached garage is only just detached so the cable run will
be
short and it will give me all the flexibility needed.
Thanks,
Roman
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
news:wGcJd.652$Ht4.520@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
Fair enough. I am surprised that the keypad is beyond repair.
Dont assume that the system is faulty because of it being warm - some
components do get warm, those that get HOT usually have Heatsinks on
them
to
carry away the heat.
The 9448 is renowned for leaving what apears to be a scorch mark up the
wall
near top left of the panel. All this is, is the heat from the heatsink
venting through a hole at the rear dragging dirt from the atmosphere
with
it
and depositing the dirt on the wall.
You could of course if you wish buy two new 9651s and connect as
previously
suggested.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:P74Jd.249$8a2.145@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
It would be an option but for the 9448+.panel. I had it opened, but
the
contacts are pretty bad. It looks that this panel has developed fault,
it
feels quite warm where the keypad is for start. I shall not persevere
with
the panel and get a new one.
Thanks
Roman
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
news:DOWHd.333$PZ1.185@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
You can certainly get radio transmitters & receivers made by
Scantronic
that
will work the Zone.
I have never looked for a wireless remote keypad so I cant comment
on
that.
But i would doubt that you can get one for your 9448+.
Heres a thought though:-
Get a new 9651 with RKP & fit it in your house.
Repair your old 9448+ keypad and fit it with sensors in your garage.
Wire
a
wireless transmitter (via a relay) to the siren output on the 9448+
Wire the receiver to a 24 Hour zone on the 9651.
This will give you ALL the option that you require + some others.
"r_mervart" <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1QcHd.384$GC1.318@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
I wonder if there is such a thing.
My current system is wired but I would like to extend it to a
detached
garage. Is there a control panel that would have functionality
similar
to
Scantronic 9488+ but in addition
a] had a wirefree interface to at least one zone that could be
designated
as
a second entry/exit
b] had interface for a wirefree remote keypad
c] had at least 2 part set capability
In other words I would not need to have a cable between house and
garage.
There is mains in the garage.
Thanks
roman
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r_mervart
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject:
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"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Heres a thought though:-
Get a new 9651 with RKP & fit it in your house.
Repair your old 9448+ keypad and fit it with sensors in your
garage.
Wire
a
wireless transmitter (via a relay) to the siren output on the
9448+
Wire the receiver to a 24 Hour zone on the 9651.
This will give you ALL the option that you require + some others.
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I was thinking more about your suggestion. It has some advantages, mainly
simplicity but also some functional disadvantages because there would be no
interaction between the two parts, one in the house and one in the garage.
With a remote keypad and a remote sensor in the garage connected to a new
single panel in the house I can operate all the system functions fully
either from the panel keypad or from the external keypad.
For example: I can designate a garage as a part set 1 and the house minus
upper floor zone plus garage as a part set 2.
Then at night I can from the house set part set 2 which includes a garage..
If my son arrives late by car he could then disarm the whole system from the
garage and then once in the house to arm it again to part set 2.
Another example: If I am in the house I could arm system to part set 1 thus
protecting the garage or alternatively I could just designate garage as a
chime zone all from the comfort of the house
The only functional disadvantage I can see is that I will not hear an
entry/exit tone in the garage which could be bit of a problem.
What do you say?
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Paul Ekins
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject:
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Why don't you get a Scantronic 9751 and 9930 keypad with 9955 radio
expander.
Then add a 715r (if it is a sealed environment) or 735r's on the doors. You
could then use a 725r to set/unset the system instead of a keypad and job
done.
--
Paul Ekins
www.lincsecure.co.uk
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BIG NIGE
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:07 am Post subject:
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Lets face it Paul theres too many options.
"Paul Ekins" <123pmekins@SPAMTRAPicqmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Why don't you get a Scantronic 9751 and 9930 keypad with 9955 radio
expander.
Then add a 715r (if it is a sealed environment) or 735r's on the doors.
You
could then use a 725r to set/unset the system instead of a keypad and job
done.
--
Paul Ekins
www.lincsecure.co.uk
paul@lincsecure.co.uk
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Paul Ekins
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:54 am Post subject:
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This is true, Just thought a Hybrid Scantronic was what he wanted.
Unfortunately the hybrid panels don't support keypads so suggested a fob
instead. We will see!!!
--
Paul Ekins
www.lincsecure.co.uk
paul@lincsecure.co.uk
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Lets face it Paul theres too many options.
"Paul Ekins" <123pmekins@SPAMTRAPicqmail.com> wrote in message
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Why don't you get a Scantronic 9751 and 9930 keypad with 9955 radio
expander.
Then add a 715r (if it is a sealed environment) or 735r's on the doors.
You
could then use a 725r to set/unset the system instead of a keypad and
job
done.
--
Paul Ekins
www.lincsecure.co.uk
paul@lincsecure.co.uk
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r_mervart
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject:
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On balance I think a remote keypad and one or two Dual tecs will be more
flexible even though I will have to dig out turf for the cable. As I mused
in an earlier posting , in such configuration I can fully control either
house or garage or both from either the main panel or the remote keypad
using part and full set facilities of the new panel. This is important
because I can enter either garage first and then house or vice versa and
similarly on the way out. If I used contacts I would have to have one on
each front garage door, one on a side door and one on each window and I
could not leave a (small) window open.
There seems to be an opportunity for security equipment manufacturers to
come up with a simple hybrid solution to allow just such a basic system
extension. All it requires is a control panel where just one zone and a
single keypad can be connected wirelessly. I am sure that at a right price
there would be a demand for this, there must be quite a few people with
unprotected detached garages or sheds even if they have an alarm system in
the main house
Roman
"Paul Ekins" <123pmekins@SPAMTRAPicqmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | This is true, Just thought a Hybrid Scantronic was what he wanted.
Unfortunately the hybrid panels don't support keypads so suggested a fob
instead. We will see!!!
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Paul Ekins
www.lincsecure.co.uk
paul@lincsecure.co.uk
"BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com> wrote in message
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Lets face it Paul theres too many options.
"Paul Ekins" <123pmekins@SPAMTRAPicqmail.com> wrote in message
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Why don't you get a Scantronic 9751 and 9930 keypad with 9955 radio
expander.
Then add a 715r (if it is a sealed environment) or 735r's on the
doors.
You
could then use a 725r to set/unset the system instead of a keypad and
job
done.
--
Paul Ekins
www.lincsecure.co.uk
paul@lincsecure.co.uk
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