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Dave Milne
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Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:19 am Post subject:
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Hi,
I understand from the police website
(http://www.met.police.uk/crimeprevention/alarms.htm) that I should be
looking for wireless alarms conforming to BS 6799 Class VI ( cant find many
makers of those) or wired ones conforming to BS 7042.
Background:
(I don't care either way if I have to wire it myself / get a professional in
to wire it / get wireless).
I'd like the alarm to dial me up /SMS me if it goes off. Not so fussed about
dialing the police up.
Its for my (detached) house.
I know squat about alarms.
Any particular model recommendations ? At the moment I'm looking at the
Scantronic 9751.
Any comments ?
I'm going to have a cat - do you get PIR sensors which are tolerant of small
creatures only ? The ones I have seen claim as Pet compatible claim they
ignore up to
36kg (which would theoretically let a small child in ? )
I have a coal fire in addition to the radiators - is this likely to cause
PIRs problems ?
I assume I need a PIR sensor for each room plus one for each hallway ? Is
this sufficient or do I need motion sensors, window breaking detectors or
anything else as well ?
What is a Quad PIR sensor ? How does it differ from a dual technology PIR
sensor which seems to cost about 35 quid each ?
Any pointers to literature or your opinions would be most helpful. I've
tried to do a bit of reading before coming here, but haven't yet got a feel
for who makes the best kit. My budget is up to 1K GBP - is this reasonable ?
What would be the installation charge ballpark for a wired system ?
Dave
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Linc Secure
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Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:06 am Post subject:
Re: Newbie Help. |
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:mCM0d.5326$ak5.56911063@news-text.cableinet.net...
| Quote: | Hi,
I understand from the police website
(http://www.met.police.uk/crimeprevention/alarms.htm) that I should be
looking for wireless alarms conforming to BS 6799 Class VI ( cant find
many
makers of those) or wired ones conforming to BS 7042.
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Most systems conform to BS 4737 which is the main standard for intruder
alarms.
| Quote: | Background:
(I don't care either way if I have to wire it myself / get a professional
in
to wire it / get wireless).
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I would advise a professional if you have little knowledge about alarms.
| Quote: | I'd like the alarm to dial me up /SMS me if it goes off. Not so fussed
about
dialing the police up.
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If police responce isn't a necessity, there are still many options for
communication.
| Quote: | Its for my (detached) house.
I know squat about alarms.
Any particular model recommendations ? At the moment I'm looking at the
Scantronic 9751.
Any comments ?
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9751 has a built in communicater that reports to a control room.( not direct
to your phone/SMS) You should be able to find a better solution fo ryour
requiremnets.
| Quote: |
I'm going to have a cat - do you get PIR sensors which are tolerant of
small
creatures only ? The ones I have seen claim as Pet compatible claim they
ignore up to
36kg (which would theoretically let a small child in ? )
|
Most brands make a pet immune version of sensor. I wouldn't advise the use
of these for a DIY install as the set up is critical as they are adjustable
upto the maximum weight.
| Quote: |
I have a coal fire in addition to the radiators - is this likely to cause
PIRs problems ?
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Again, if installed correctly you shouldn't have a problem.
| Quote: |
I assume I need a PIR sensor for each room plus one for each hallway ? Is
this sufficient or do I need motion sensors, window breaking detectors or
anything else as well ?
|
Only main areas need to be protected. You should be able to cover the
average house sufficiently with around 5 detectors.
| Quote: |
What is a Quad PIR sensor ? How does it differ from a dual technology PIR
sensor which seems to cost about 35 quid each ?
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A quad sensor is effectively 2 PIR's in one housing. A Dual Technology has a
PIR and a Microwave detector in the one housing. Dual Tec's are normally
used in unstable environments. (such as a garage)
| Quote: | Any pointers to literature or your opinions would be most helpful. I've
tried to do a bit of reading before coming here, but haven't yet got a
feel
for who makes the best kit. My budget is up to 1K GBP - is this reasonable
?
What would be the installation charge ballpark for a wired system ?
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1K should get you a decent a system including installation.
Paul Ekins
www.lincsecure.com
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Dave Milne
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Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject:
Re: Newbie Help. |
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"Linc Secure" <pmekins@SPAMTRAPicqmail.com> wrote in message
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:mCM0d.5326$ak5.56911063@news-text.cableinet.net...
Hi,
I understand from the police website
(http://www.met.police.uk/crimeprevention/alarms.htm) that I should be
looking for wireless alarms conforming to BS 6799 Class VI ( cant find
many
makers of those) or wired ones conforming to BS 7042.
Most systems conform to BS 4737 which is the main standard for intruder
alarms.
Background:
(I don't care either way if I have to wire it myself / get a
professional
in
to wire it / get wireless).
I would advise a professional if you have little knowledge about alarms.
I'd like the alarm to dial me up /SMS me if it goes off. Not so fussed
about
dialing the police up.
If police responce isn't a necessity, there are still many options for
communication.
Its for my (detached) house.
I know squat about alarms.
Any particular model recommendations ? At the moment I'm looking at the
Scantronic 9751.
Any comments ?
9751 has a built in communicater that reports to a control room.( not
direct
to your phone/SMS) You should be able to find a better solution fo ryour
requiremnets.
I'm going to have a cat - do you get PIR sensors which are tolerant of
small
creatures only ? The ones I have seen claim as Pet compatible claim they
ignore up to
36kg (which would theoretically let a small child in ? )
Most brands make a pet immune version of sensor. I wouldn't advise the use
of these for a DIY install as the set up is critical as they are
adjustable
upto the maximum weight.
I have a coal fire in addition to the radiators - is this likely to
cause
PIRs problems ?
Again, if installed correctly you shouldn't have a problem.
I assume I need a PIR sensor for each room plus one for each hallway ?
Is
this sufficient or do I need motion sensors, window breaking detectors
or
anything else as well ?
Only main areas need to be protected. You should be able to cover the
average house sufficiently with around 5 detectors.
What is a Quad PIR sensor ? How does it differ from a dual technology
PIR
sensor which seems to cost about 35 quid each ?
A quad sensor is effectively 2 PIR's in one housing. A Dual Technology has
a
PIR and a Microwave detector in the one housing. Dual Tec's are normally
used in unstable environments. (such as a garage)
Any pointers to literature or your opinions would be most helpful. I've
tried to do a bit of reading before coming here, but haven't yet got a
feel
for who makes the best kit. My budget is up to 1K GBP - is this
reasonable
?
What would be the installation charge ballpark for a wired system ?
1K should get you a decent a system including installation.
Paul Ekins
www.lincsecure.com
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thanks !
Dave
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