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Ignoramus18142
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject:
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I have three UPSes:
1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
2. Clary OnGuard 1 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
3. Ferrups 3.0 kVa inline model UPS (no outlets), no batteries
All are working.
I would like to demolish these UPSes, take out what I can sell and
auction these parts on ebay. I recently demolished an even bigger Data
General UPS (about 8 kW) and sold the capacitors from it for $75. The
rest is a big pile of unidentifiable parts. Some look like huge diodes
and transistors. I am afraid that some of those parts have value that
I would have hard times capturing (maybe I took apart a large and
usable rectifier, for example), so, I do not want to make the same
mistake again.
I would like to know which parts of those UPSes are really desirable.
Capacitors?
Rectifiers?
Anything else?
Any thoughts on this will be appreciated. I will use this as an
opportunity to learn about electronics.
Thanks!
i
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject:
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You might see if the specs on the diodes would let them be used for an
AC to DC arc welding converter.
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Ignoramus18142
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject:
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On 4 Feb 2005 09:33:58 -0800, pdrahn@coinet.com <pdrahn@coinet.com> wrote:
| Quote: | You might see if the specs on the diodes would let them be used for an
AC to DC arc welding converter.
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What would such specs be? I can look them up.
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Don Lancaster
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject:
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Ignoramus18142 wrote:
| Quote: | I have three UPSes:
1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
2. Clary OnGuard 1 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
3. Ferrups 3.0 kVa inline model UPS (no outlets), no batteries
All are working.
I would like to demolish these UPSes, take out what I can sell and
auction these parts on ebay. I recently demolished an even bigger Data
General UPS (about 8 kW) and sold the capacitors from it for $75. The
rest is a big pile of unidentifiable parts. Some look like huge diodes
and transistors. I am afraid that some of those parts have value that
I would have hard times capturing (maybe I took apart a large and
usable rectifier, for example), so, I do not want to make the same
mistake again.
I would like to know which parts of those UPSes are really desirable.
Capacitors?
Rectifiers?
Anything else?
Any thoughts on this will be appreciated. I will use this as an
opportunity to learn about electronics.
Thanks!
i
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I have not seen much demand for older and heavier UPS gear.
I charge another eBay seller $200 per month to haul it away.
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Rita Ä Berkowitz
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:13 am Post subject:
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"Ignoramus18142" <ignoramus18142@NOSPAM.18142.invalid> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have three UPSes:
1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
2. Clary OnGuard 1 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
3. Ferrups 3.0 kVa inline model UPS (no outlets), no batteries
All are working.
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That generally won't make any difference with these dogs. You probably have
late 80s early 90s vintage units. Plus, these are low-end units that have
no customer appeal.
| Quote: | I would like to demolish these UPSes, take out what I can sell and
auction these parts on ebay. I recently demolished an even bigger Data
General UPS (about 8 kW) and sold the capacitors from it for $75. The
rest is a big pile of unidentifiable parts. Some look like huge diodes
and transistors. I am afraid that some of those parts have value that
I would have hard times capturing (maybe I took apart a large and
usable rectifier, for example), so, I do not want to make the same
mistake again.
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The capacitors are probably appealing to the ghetto-blaster-car-audio-crowd.
Other than a few relays and some MOVs there really isn't anything worth
popping the hood for.
| Quote: | I would like to know which parts of those UPSes are really desirable.
Capacitors?
Rectifiers?
Anything else?
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Some have Anderson connectors that you can get about $1.50 each.
| Quote: | Any thoughts on this will be appreciated. I will use this as an
opportunity to learn about electronics.
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Strip them for the fun of it, but don't expect to find any gold nuggets in
them. Good luck and have fun.
Rita
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Ignoramus18142
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:13:34 -0500, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04@aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Ignoramus18142" <ignoramus18142@NOSPAM.18142.invalid> wrote in message
news:cu0a8u$bem$0@pita.alt.net...
I have three UPSes:
1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
2. Clary OnGuard 1 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
3. Ferrups 3.0 kVa inline model UPS (no outlets), no batteries
All are working.
That generally won't make any difference with these dogs. You probably have
late 80s early 90s vintage units. Plus, these are low-end units that have
no customer appeal.
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Clarys are $10,000 high end units. Not that it matter, now that no one
wants them.
I will probably convert the cabinet from the Ferrups unit into a meat
smoker (smokehouse).
| Quote: | I would like to demolish these UPSes, take out what I can sell and
auction these parts on ebay. I recently demolished an even bigger Data
General UPS (about 8 kW) and sold the capacitors from it for $75. The
rest is a big pile of unidentifiable parts. Some look like huge diodes
and transistors. I am afraid that some of those parts have value that
I would have hard times capturing (maybe I took apart a large and
usable rectifier, for example), so, I do not want to make the same
mistake again.
The capacitors are probably appealing to the
ghetto-blaster-car-audio-crowd.
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Maybe, but those were high voltage kind.
| Quote: | Other than a few relays and some MOVs there really isn't anything
worth popping the hood for.
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I need to take them apart to take them to a dumpster anyway...
What a hassle, I made $320 profit on this lot (on other pieces), but I
hate every moment of owning it. Well, I got some useful parts out of
those UPSes, but still I would not do the deal if I knew what Iknow.
| Quote: | I would like to know which parts of those UPSes are really desirable.
Capacitors?
Rectifiers?
Anything else?
Some have Anderson connectors that you can get about $1.50 each.
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What about the rectifiers.
| Quote: | Any thoughts on this will be appreciated. I will use this as an
opportunity to learn about electronics.
Strip them for the fun of it, but don't expect to find any gold nuggets in
them. Good luck and have fun.
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Thanks. If I get $50 out of each, and some parts good for myself, I
will be happy. Maybe I can get my retired FIL to do some disassembly
in exchange for "profit sharing".
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Rita Ä Berkowitz
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:48 am Post subject:
Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? |
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"Ignoramus18142" <ignoramus18142@NOSPAM.18142.invalid> wrote in message
news:cu0edq$pci$0@pita.alt.net...
| Quote: | Clarys are $10,000 high end units. Not that it matter, now that no one
wants them.
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I had dozens of them new on the skid and couldn't give them away. Yes, they
were very expensive when new. This is due to the uneducated people in the
government's purchasing department.
Never handle any UPS unless it's an APC unit of 2200VA and above. And you
should never handle any three phase units made by anyone else but APC or
Liebert.
| Quote: | I will probably convert the cabinet from the Ferrups unit into a meat
smoker (smokehouse).
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Now that is a great idea. I wish I had thought of that. You might want to
list one on eBay.
| Quote: | Maybe, but those were high voltage kind.
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Some of the older units used either a 12 or 24 VDC configuration and had
these larger caps. The newer 48 VDC and above units don't have anything
worthwhile in them.
| Quote: | I need to take them apart to take them to a dumpster anyway...
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I forgot to ad that you do have some heavy-duty transformers in these things
that you can use as a crude welder if you don't already own one. Save the
rectifiers for this purpose as well.
| Quote: | What a hassle, I made $320 profit on this lot (on other pieces), but I
hate every moment of owning it. Well, I got some useful parts out of
those UPSes, but still I would not do the deal if I knew what Iknow.
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It's not even worth it with a forklift. Just be careful that you don't drop
a nut screwing with these things.
| Quote: | What about the rectifiers.
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See above. There is probably little eBay value in them unless you do some
creative writing.
| Quote: | Thanks. If I get $50 out of each, and some parts good for myself, I
will be happy. Maybe I can get my retired FIL to do some disassembly
in exchange for "profit sharing".
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I really like your smoker idea! Have fun and good luck.
Rita
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EF in FLA
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:05 am Post subject:
Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? |
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| Quote: | I had dozens of them new on the skid and couldn't give them away. Yes,
they
were very expensive when new. This is due to the uneducated people in the
government's purchasing department.
Never handle any UPS unless it's an APC unit of 2200VA and above. And you
should never handle any three phase units made by anyone else but APC or
Liebert.
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Wow look at Rita showing off her considerable knowledge of three phase UPS
units!
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Ignoramus18142
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:48:19 -0500, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04@aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Ignoramus18142" <ignoramus18142@NOSPAM.18142.invalid> wrote in message
news:cu0edq$pci$0@pita.alt.net...
Clarys are $10,000 high end units. Not that it matter, now that no one
wants them.
I had dozens of them new on the skid and couldn't give them away. Yes, they
were very expensive when new. This is due to the uneducated people in the
government's purchasing department.
Never handle any UPS unless it's an APC unit of 2200VA and above. And you
should never handle any three phase units made by anyone else but APC or
Liebert.
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I made about $2,500 to $2,800 on APC 1,400 VA units, 2 years
ago. Bought 2 skids with 28 of them, all with shot batteries, replaced
batteries with help of a friend, and sold the UPSes on ebay.
| Quote: | I will probably convert the cabinet from the Ferrups unit into a meat
smoker (smokehouse).
Now that is a great idea. I wish I had thought of that. You might want to
list one on eBay.
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The page that is dedicated to this project is here:
http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/ferrups-meat-smoker/
It has a nice front door and top cover both on hinges, nice for
loading meat and cleaning.
| Quote: | Maybe, but those were high voltage kind.
Some of the older units used either a 12 or 24 VDC configuration and had
these larger caps. The newer 48 VDC and above units don't have anything
worthwhile in them.
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The big UPS had 300 volt capacitors. I sold those.
| Quote: | I need to take them apart to take them to a dumpster anyway...
I forgot to ad that you do have some heavy-duty transformers in these things
that you can use as a crude welder if you don't already own one. Save the
rectifiers for this purpose as well.
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Good point.
I discussed this on rec.crafts.metalworking, and concluded that i do
not want to make welders. I could sell the rectifiers, if you think
that they are worth something.
| Quote: | What a hassle, I made $320 profit on this lot (on other pieces), but I
hate every moment of owning it. Well, I got some useful parts out of
those UPSes, but still I would not do the deal if I knew what Iknow.
It's not even worth it with a forklift. Just be careful that you don't drop
a nut screwing with these things.
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I have a hoist, which makes things easier, but till.
| Quote: | What about the rectifiers.
See above. There is probably little eBay value in them unless you do some
creative writing.
Thanks. If I get $50 out of each, and some parts good for myself, I
will be happy. Maybe I can get my retired FIL to do some disassembly
in exchange for "profit sharing".
I really like your smoker idea! Have fun and good luck.
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Thanks Rita. As always, I value your opinion.
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:12 am Post subject:
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anybody can google xxxxxxxx and be an expert parrot in no time.
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Rita Ä Berkowitz
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:18 am Post subject:
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"Ignoramus18142" <ignoramus18142@NOSPAM.18142.invalid> wrote in message
| Quote: | I made about $2,500 to $2,800 on APC 1,400 VA units, 2 years
ago. Bought 2 skids with 28 of them, all with shot batteries, replaced
batteries with help of a friend, and sold the UPSes on ebay.
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That's not bad. The 1400s fall well bellow our acceptable price per pound
ratio and we don't screw with them. In today's market the 1400s are
worthless. Even the Matrix 5000 is in the dirt. The Symmetras do extremely
well off eBay.
| Quote: | I discussed this on rec.crafts.metalworking, and concluded that i do
not want to make welders. I could sell the rectifiers, if you think
that they are worth something.
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I would try writing a creative description and a title that has creative
uses for them and list them on eBay with a $50 starting bid. I find listing
an item's alternative use instead of name and model number work great for
items that don't sell.
Rita
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Ignoramus18142
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:26 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:18:43 -0500, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04@aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Ignoramus18142" <ignoramus18142@NOSPAM.18142.invalid> wrote in message
I made about $2,500 to $2,800 on APC 1,400 VA units, 2 years
ago. Bought 2 skids with 28 of them, all with shot batteries, replaced
batteries with help of a friend, and sold the UPSes on ebay.
That's not bad. The 1400s fall well bellow our acceptable price per pound
ratio and we don't screw with them. In today's market the 1400s are
worthless. Even the Matrix 5000 is in the dirt. The Symmetras do extremely
well off eBay.
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Yes, it seems times are changing. Even 2-3 years ago, Ferrups UPSes
were selling relatively well.
| Quote: | I discussed this on rec.crafts.metalworking, and concluded that i do
not want to make welders. I could sell the rectifiers, if you think
that they are worth something.
I would try writing a creative description and a title that has creative
uses for them and list them on eBay with a $50 starting bid. I find listing
an item's alternative use instead of name and model number work great for
items that don't sell.
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I will give it a shot. I have a monster transformer that weighs
300 pounds.
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Angrie.Woman
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:29 am Post subject:
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"EF in FLA" <abc@bcs.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I had dozens of them new on the skid and couldn't give them away. Yes,
they
were very expensive when new. This is due to the uneducated people in
the
government's purchasing department.
Never handle any UPS unless it's an APC unit of 2200VA and above. And
you
should never handle any three phase units made by anyone else but APC or
Liebert.
Wow look at Rita showing off her considerable knowledge of three phase UPS
units!
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Like I said, sometimes I wonder just how feminine she actually is. She also
hates gay men with a passion I've only ever seen in men.
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Rita Ä Berkowitz
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"Angrie.Woman" <spamspameggsbaconandspam@spam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Like I said, sometimes I wonder just how feminine she actually is. She
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hates gay men with a passion I've only ever seen in men.
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LOL! Maybe you're questioning your gender? Maybe I should be selling
Beanie Babies instead of what I sell to be feminine? And no, I don't "hate
gay men with a passion". I don't know what gave you that idea? You need to
get your head out of your ass and see what women are doing in the world
today.
Rita
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Tim Williams
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"Ignoramus18142" <ignoramus18142@NOSPAM.18142.invalid> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have three UPSes:
1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
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*Shrug* I might have use for the parts in one. Just how big are they
again?...
Tim
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