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Ignoramus18142
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:55:24 -0600, Tim Williams <tmoranwms@charter.net> wrote:
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"Ignoramus18142" <ignoramus18142@NOSPAM.18142.invalid> wrote in message
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I have three UPSes:

1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries

*Shrug* I might have use for the parts in one. Just how big are they
again?...

About the size of an office water cooler. I would say wildly, 1.5x2x3
feet. If you are in Chicagoland, you would be welcome to come and pick
it up.

At least, you can salvage a nice 3 phase 8 gauge flexible power cord,
heavy duty casters, capacitors, a bunch of copper, outlet strips,
rectifier etc.

i

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Jon Elson
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

Ignoramus18142 wrote:

Quote:
I have three UPSes:

1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
2. Clary OnGuard 1 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
3. Ferrups 3.0 kVa inline model UPS (no outlets), no batteries

All are working.

I would like to demolish these UPSes, take out what I can sell and
auction these parts on ebay. I recently demolished an even bigger Data
General UPS (about 8 kW) and sold the capacitors from it for $75. The
rest is a big pile of unidentifiable parts. Some look like huge diodes
and transistors. I am afraid that some of those parts have value that
I would have hard times capturing (maybe I took apart a large and
usable rectifier, for example), so, I do not want to make the same
mistake again.

I would like to know which parts of those UPSes are really desirable.

Capacitors?

Rectifiers?

Anything else?


There ought to be some big power transistors or SCRs. The SCRs, and

maybe even
the transistors, might look like "hockey pucks" between two large heatsinks,
with bolts and springs compressing them between the sinks. Big transistors
may also look like plastic blocks bolted to the heatsinks. You might just
list these on eBay as separate items. The only people interested in
these might
be people fooling with electric vehicles.

And, you NEVER know what an item on eBay will bring. Some stuff I just
couldn't quite bear to throw away, so I listed them on eBay, brought amazing
bids. I sold a 1938 or so Bijur 35 mm movie camera that had been
modified into
a flight data recording camera by McDonnel-Douglas, maybe in the 40's or
50's,
for $264! I STILL can't get over that one! You just NEVER can predict who
is willing to pay how much for something.

Jon
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Lumpy
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

Jon Elson wrote:
Quote:
There ought to be some big
power transistors or SCRs...

And, you NEVER know what an
item on eBay will bring...

I've got an old capacitor that leaked oil
and shrunk, kind of like those shrunken
apple dolls.

Now it looks like Tom Poston on acid.


Lumpy
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http://www.lumpymusic.com

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Ignoramus18142
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 17:54:54 -0600, Jon Elson <jmelson@artsci.wustl.edu> wrote:
Quote:


Ignoramus18142 wrote:

I have three UPSes:

1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
2. Clary OnGuard 1 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
3. Ferrups 3.0 kVa inline model UPS (no outlets), no batteries

All are working.

I would like to demolish these UPSes, take out what I can sell and
auction these parts on ebay. I recently demolished an even bigger Data
General UPS (about 8 kW) and sold the capacitors from it for $75. The
rest is a big pile of unidentifiable parts. Some look like huge diodes
and transistors. I am afraid that some of those parts have value that
I would have hard times capturing (maybe I took apart a large and
usable rectifier, for example), so, I do not want to make the same
mistake again.

I would like to know which parts of those UPSes are really desirable.

Capacitors?

Rectifiers?

Anything else?


There ought to be some big power transistors or SCRs. The SCRs, and
maybe even
the transistors, might look like "hockey pucks" between two large heatsinks,
with bolts and springs compressing them between the sinks. Big transistors
may also look like plastic blocks bolted to the heatsinks. You might just
list these on eBay as separate items. The only people interested in
these might
be people fooling with electric vehicles.

thanks!

Quote:
And, you NEVER know what an item on eBay will bring. Some stuff I just
couldn't quite bear to throw away, so I listed them on eBay, brought amazing
bids. I sold a 1938 or so Bijur 35 mm movie camera that had been
modified into
a flight data recording camera by McDonnel-Douglas, maybe in the 40's or
50's,
for $264! I STILL can't get over that one! You just NEVER can predict who
is willing to pay how much for something.

Jon


great!!!

i
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jakdedert
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

Ignoramus18142 wrote:

<snip>
Quote:
And, you NEVER know what an item on eBay will bring. Some stuff I
just couldn't quite bear to throw away, so I listed them on eBay,
brought amazing bids. I sold a 1938 or so Bijur 35 mm movie camera
that had been
modified into
a flight data recording camera by McDonnel-Douglas, maybe in the
40's or 50's,
for $264! I STILL can't get over that one! You just NEVER can
predict who is willing to pay how much for something.


I sold something called a 3M Secretary transparency maker for $270. It
seems that they are used in tattoo parlors. I couldn't even figure out what
it was supposed to do...make overhead transparencies, I guess.

jak

Quote:
Jon


great!!!

i
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BrotherBart
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

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Now it looks like Tom Poston on acid.

God! What a mental image. Now I have to go get my brain dry-cleaned again.
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James Sweet
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

"Ignoramus18142" <ignoramus18142@NOSPAM.18142.invalid> wrote in message
news:cu0a8u$bem$0@pita.alt.net...
Quote:
I have three UPSes:

1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
2. Clary OnGuard 1 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
3. Ferrups 3.0 kVa inline model UPS (no outlets), no batteries

All are working.

I would like to demolish these UPSes, take out what I can sell and
auction these parts on ebay. I recently demolished an even bigger Data
General UPS (about 8 kW) and sold the capacitors from it for $75. The
rest is a big pile of unidentifiable parts. Some look like huge diodes
and transistors. I am afraid that some of those parts have value that
I would have hard times capturing (maybe I took apart a large and
usable rectifier, for example), so, I do not want to make the same
mistake again.

I would like to know which parts of those UPSes are really desirable.

Capacitors?

Rectifiers?

Anything else?

Any thoughts on this will be appreciated. I will use this as an
opportunity to learn about electronics.

Thanks!


Chances are the whole units are worth more than the sum of their parts. They
make good power inverters.
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william_b_noble
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

why not sell the 3 phase one as an alternative to a rotary or static
inverter - no batteries needed.
"Ignoramus18142" <ignoramus18142@NOSPAM.18142.invalid> wrote in message
news:cu0a8u$bem$0@pita.alt.net...
Quote:
I have three UPSes:

1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
2. Clary OnGuard 1 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
3. Ferrups 3.0 kVa inline model UPS (no outlets), no batteries

All are working.

I would like to demolish these UPSes, take out what I can sell and
auction these parts on ebay. I recently demolished an even bigger Data
General UPS (about 8 kW) and sold the capacitors from it for $75. The
rest is a big pile of unidentifiable parts. Some look like huge diodes
and transistors. I am afraid that some of those parts have value that
I would have hard times capturing (maybe I took apart a large and
usable rectifier, for example), so, I do not want to make the same
mistake again.

I would like to know which parts of those UPSes are really desirable.

Capacitors?

Rectifiers?

Anything else?

Any thoughts on this will be appreciated. I will use this as an
opportunity to learn about electronics.

Thanks!

i
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Martin H. Eastburn
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

Ignoramus18142 wrote:

Quote:
I have three UPSes:

1. Clary OnGuard 3 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
2. Clary OnGuard 1 phase 5 kVa UPS, no batteries
3. Ferrups 3.0 kVa inline model UPS (no outlets), no batteries

All are working.

I would like to demolish these UPSes, take out what I can sell and
auction these parts on ebay. I recently demolished an even bigger Data
General UPS (about 8 kW) and sold the capacitors from it for $75. The
rest is a big pile of unidentifiable parts. Some look like huge diodes
and transistors. I am afraid that some of those parts have value that
I would have hard times capturing (maybe I took apart a large and
usable rectifier, for example), so, I do not want to make the same
mistake again.

I would like to know which parts of those UPSes are really desirable.

Capacitors?

Rectifiers?

Anything else?

Any thoughts on this will be appreciated. I will use this as an
opportunity to learn about electronics.

Thanks!

i
Think first. These with no batteries likely have various input voltage taps.

They likely provide various output voltages.

Can they be used to provide the correct voltage to a high voltage motor that is cheap ?
Convert farm like 2 phase into 3 phase on the output ?

Understand what is possible before scrapping. The transformers might be most useful
in the prior concepts. The inverter might be to custom.
Martin

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Don Lancaster
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

James Sweet wrote:

Quote:

Chances are the whole units are worth more than the sum of their parts. They
make good power inverters.



Removing the batteries and calling them inverters might work quite well.

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Many thanks,

Don Lancaster
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
voice: (928)428-4073 email: don@tinaja.com

Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Ignoramus30020
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:31:40 -0500, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
Don Lancaster wrote:

Removing the batteries and calling them inverters might work quite
well.

Only if the units he has are able to do a "cold start". Some older UPS
units don't have this option. I don't recall if his models will.

Most likely, I could short some logic and make them cold startable,
but that is not the biggest problem. The biggest one is that they are
inverters for some pretty odd DC voltage. Not 12, 24 or 48 volts.

I will take off power cords and other valuable stuff and take the rest
to the dumpster. Power cords are quite awesome, 8 gauge flexible range
plug with the cable that is like 6 foot long.

Thanks Don and Rita.

i
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Rita Ä Berkowitz
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

Don Lancaster wrote:

Quote:
Removing the batteries and calling them inverters might work quite
well.

Only if the units he has are able to do a "cold start". Some older UPS
units don't have this option. I don't recall if his models will.


Rita
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http://www.geocities.com/ritaberk2003/
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R. Totale
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

On 5 Feb 2005 20:45:34 GMT, Ignoramus30020
<ignoramus30020@NOSPAM.30020.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
I will take off power cords and other valuable stuff and take the rest
to the dumpster. Power cords are quite awesome, 8 gauge flexible range
plug with the cable that is like 6 foot long.

Cut the plugs off both ends and solder on terminal lugs, and market
them to hi-fi nuts as the latest miracle speaker cable for $100
apiece. Be sure to talk about how they provided an awesome soundstage
and removed all veiling, and you're selling them only because they're
too revealing of the other flaws in your rig.
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Don Lancaster
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

R. Totale wrote:
Quote:
On 5 Feb 2005 20:45:34 GMT, Ignoramus30020
ignoramus30020@NOSPAM.30020.invalid> wrote:


I will take off power cords and other valuable stuff and take the rest
to the dumpster. Power cords are quite awesome, 8 gauge flexible range
plug with the cable that is like 6 foot long.


Cut the plugs off both ends and solder on terminal lugs, and market
them to hi-fi nuts as the latest miracle speaker cable for $100
apiece. Be sure to talk about how they provided an awesome soundstage
and removed all veiling, and you're selling them only because they're
too revealing of the other flaws in your rig.



By far the best speaker cable you can buy is four point barbed wire.

See http://www.tinaja.com/glib/marcia.pdf for a detailed analysis.


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Many thanks,

Don Lancaster
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
voice: (928)428-4073 email: don@tinaja.com

Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Ignoramus30020
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: What parts to salvage/sell from a UPS? Reply with quote

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 15:56:51 -0500, R Totale <slangtruth@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 5 Feb 2005 20:45:34 GMT, Ignoramus30020
ignoramus30020@NOSPAM.30020.invalid> wrote:

I will take off power cords and other valuable stuff and take the rest
to the dumpster. Power cords are quite awesome, 8 gauge flexible range
plug with the cable that is like 6 foot long.

Cut the plugs off both ends and solder on terminal lugs, and market
them to hi-fi nuts as the latest miracle speaker cable for $100
apiece. Be sure to talk about how they provided an awesome soundstage
and removed all veiling, and you're selling them only because they're
too revealing of the other flaws in your rig.

Hahaha. You forgot that I should mention "improved believability of
sound". Seriously speaking, I should salvage plenty of 6 gauge wires
with terminals, and various electrical thingys. I will keep a lot of
that stuff.

i
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