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David Kirkby
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:35 am Post subject:
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Are there any freely available GPIB board drivers for Solaris using a
National Instruments PCI based GPIB board?
They are on the National Instruments web site
http://digital.ni.com/softlib.nsf/websearch/7DF09987E09E372F86256DD500004715?opendocument&node=132060_US
but are not free - in fact, the drivers at £395 are slightly more
expensive than the card itself!!
It seems I would need part# 778027-01.
Just wondering if anyone is aware of any other solutions? I only want
this for home use, so are not going to spend that sort of money on drivers.
Running Solaris 9 here.
Dr. David Kirkby
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John Larkin
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:35 am Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:38:46 +0100, David Kirkby
<REMOVE-david.kirkby@onetel.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Are there any freely available GPIB board drivers for Solaris using a
National Instruments PCI based GPIB board?
They are on the National Instruments web site
http://digital.ni.com/softlib.nsf/websearch/7DF09987E09E372F86256DD500004715?opendocument&node=132060_US
but are not free - in fact, the drivers at £395 are slightly more
expensive than the card itself!!
It seems I would need part# 778027-01.
Just wondering if anyone is aware of any other solutions? I only want
this for home use, so are not going to spend that sort of money on drivers.
Running Solaris 9 here.
Dr. David Kirkby
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RS-232 to GPIB boxes show up on ebay, usually cheap.
John |
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David Kirkby
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:35 am Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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David Kirkby wrote:
I should have added I want this for Solaris 9 SPARC not on x86,
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Dave
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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John Larkin wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:38:46 +0100, David Kirkby
REMOVE-david.kirkby@onetel.net> wrote:
Are there any freely available GPIB board drivers for Solaris using a
National Instruments PCI based GPIB board?
They are on the National Instruments web site
http://digital.ni.com/softlib.nsf/websearch/7DF09987E09E372F86256DD500004715?opendocument&node=132060_US
but are not free - in fact, the drivers at £395 are slightly more
expensive than the card itself!!
It seems I would need part# 778027-01.
Just wondering if anyone is aware of any other solutions? I only want
this for home use, so are not going to spend that sort of money on drivers.
Running Solaris 9 here.
Dr. David Kirkby
RS-232 to GPIB boxes show up on ebay, usually cheap.
John
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Thanks for that. I don't need fast speed, so serial should do, but I'd
rather a direct GPIB solution if I can find one, but I am not going to
pay £395 for drivers. That seems to be taking the Mic a bit. |
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Frithiof Andreas Jensen
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:02 pm Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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"David Kirkby" <REMOVE-david.kirkby@onetel.net> wrote in message
news:426ec2f6@212.67.96.135...
| Quote: | but are not free - in fact, the drivers at £395 are slightly more
expensive than the card itself!!
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There is a reason for avoiding Solaris whenever possible unless forced by
corporate rulez - in which case corporate can bloody well pay up! |
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Chris Eilbeck
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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David Kirkby <REMOVE-david.kirkby@onetel.net> writes:
Just use a crappy old PC, bung it on your network and run the
linux-gpib drivers on it. I wouldn't pay extra for drivers either.
Chris
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Casper H.S. Dik
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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"Frithiof Andreas Jensen" <frithiof.jensen@die_spammer_die.ericsson.com> writes:
| Quote: | "David Kirkby" <REMOVE-david.kirkby@onetel.net> wrote in message
news:426ec2f6@212.67.96.135...
but are not free - in fact, the drivers at £395 are slightly more
expensive than the card itself!!
There is a reason for avoiding Solaris whenever possible unless forced by
corporate rulez - in which case corporate can bloody well pay up!
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Well, it's the first time I've ever seen a hardware company charge
extra for the drivers.
Casper
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John Woodgate
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Dave <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote
(in <426f8412@212.67.96.135>) about 'GPIB board drivers for Solaris', on
Wed, 27 Apr 2005:
| Quote: | But NI are taking the **** a bit. This is not a "nominal charge" but
more than the cost of the hardware, as the NI card, with Windoze XP
drivers is £390. You can possibly buy the card with only Solaris
drivers for less than £390+£395=£785, but I have not checked that.
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Do you think some marketroid goofed and the £395 price is for card +
driver? It might be worth asking, if you can find an intelligent human
to speak to, however improbable that is.
I recall one UK company had a VCR listed for £2365 for three days before
someone noticed.
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Frithiof Andreas Jensen
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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"Dave" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:426f7e22@212.67.96.135...
| Quote: | I quite like Solaris so that in itself is no reason to "avoiding Solaris
whenever possible". I might be a case to not use Solaris in this
instance, but that is a very different issue.
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heh -
I hate Solaris, but OK, that is an irrational grudge from all the way back
from SUNOS and all the known bugs they refused to fix Then "because one
should "upgrade" to Solaris - which at that time did not even have
functional *Tools* - all the better to extract $$$$$$ for the "Support
Contract".
SUN would be nice IF they grew a Brain, but they are still too moneyed for
that ;-) |
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Dave
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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John Woodgate wrote:
| Quote: | I read in sci.electronics.design that Dave <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote
(in <426f8412@212.67.96.135>) about 'GPIB board drivers for Solaris', on
Wed, 27 Apr 2005:
But NI are taking the **** a bit. This is not a "nominal charge" but
more than the cost of the hardware, as the NI card, with Windoze XP
drivers is £390. You can possibly buy the card with only Solaris
drivers for less than £390+£395=£785, but I have not checked that.
Do you think some marketroid goofed and the £395 price is for card +
driver?
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No, it is definitely not an error.
| Quote: | It might be worth asking, if you can find an intelligent human
to speak to, however improbable that is.
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I just phoned NI to confirm it and did get an intelligent human being -
I wish it was the same with my bank!!
I was quoted £790 for the GPIB board for Solaris - part number is
777462-01.
Interestingly, you can buy the Windoze card and Solaris drivers for a
total of £785, which is £5 less than you can buy the Solaris card with
Solaris drivers!
I'm 99.9% sure they are the same physical card. Data at
http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/1233
Oh, and by the way, an update from the previous version of the driver is
£235.
NI let you submit instrument drivers for Labview which is very generous
of them. I doubt they pay £395 for a driver - in fact, I doubt they pay
you at all, although I can't confirm that.
Does anyone know if you need a GPIB driver if you have Labview? We have
a license at work for Labview, on all platforms including Solaris. I
wonder if a GPIB driver would be needed then, or if Labview would
install its own. |
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Stuart Biggar
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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Casper H.S. Dik wrote:
| Quote: | "Frithiof Andreas Jensen" <frithiof.jensen@die_spammer_die.ericsson.com> writes:
"David Kirkby" <REMOVE-david.kirkby@onetel.net> wrote in message
news:426ec2f6@212.67.96.135...
but are not free - in fact, the drivers at £395 are slightly more
expensive than the card itself!!
There is a reason for avoiding Solaris whenever possible unless forced by
corporate rulez - in which case corporate can bloody well pay up!
Well, it's the first time I've ever seen a hardware company charge
extra for the drivers.
Casper
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Casper,
NI provides drivers for Windows and Linux and OS/X for free and
charges for Solaris (SPARC only) and a couple of other UNIX variants.
We use some of the NI GPIB-Ethernet devices in our optics lab.
Our software runs on SPARCs and hardware/software drivers have been
good under Solaris without the "fun" bluescreen crashes with Windows
(NT and later 2000) using the same software (Windows drivers from NI).
Later Windows drivers appear better (but not perfect). So maybe you
get what you pay for :-)
Software stability is useful when you are running expensive and
very hard to replace hardware (NIST calibrated lamps, etc).
I would like to see Sun lobby NI for support of X86 Solaris for at
least their PCI-GPIB boards and the GPIB-Enet (Ethernet to GPIB)
boxes. I've made telephone and written requests without even an
answer ...
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Dave
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:
| Quote: | "David Kirkby" <REMOVE-david.kirkby@onetel.net> wrote in message
news:426ec2f6@212.67.96.135...
but are not free - in fact, the drivers at £395 are slightly more
expensive than the card itself!!
There is a reason for avoiding Solaris whenever possible unless forced by
corporate rulez - in which case corporate can bloody well pay up!
I quite like Solaris so that in itself is no reason to "avoiding Solaris |
whenever possible". I might be a case to not use Solaris in this
instance, but that is a very different issue. |
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Dave
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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Casper H.S. Dik wrote:
| Quote: | "Frithiof Andreas Jensen" <frithiof.jensen@die_spammer_die.ericsson.com> writes:
"David Kirkby" <REMOVE-david.kirkby@onetel.net> wrote in message
news:426ec2f6@212.67.96.135...
but are not free - in fact, the drivers at £395 are slightly more
expensive than the card itself!!
There is a reason for avoiding Solaris whenever possible unless forced by
corporate rulez - in which case corporate can bloody well pay up!
Well, it's the first time I've ever seen a hardware company charge
extra for the drivers.
Casper
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I don't think this is totally unknown in the Pee Cee world, as I think
some graphics cards manufactuers have been known to make a nominal
charge for Linux drivers, but a quick google could not find evidence of
this.
But NI are taking the **** a bit. This is not a "nominal charge" but
more than the cost of the hardware, as the NI card, with Windoze XP
drivers is £390. You can possibly buy the card with only Solaris drivers
for less than £390+£395=£785, but I have not checked that. |
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Michael Vilain
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:39 pm Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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In article <d4o6m1$hp0$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se>,
"Frithiof Andreas Jensen"
"<frithiof.jensen@die_spammer_die.ericsson.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Dave" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:426f7e22@212.67.96.135...
I quite like Solaris so that in itself is no reason to "avoiding Solaris
whenever possible". I might be a case to not use Solaris in this
instance, but that is a very different issue.
heh -
I hate Solaris, but OK, that is an irrational grudge from all the way back
from SUNOS and all the known bugs they refused to fix Then "because one
should "upgrade" to Solaris - which at that time did not even have
functional *Tools* - all the better to extract $$$$$$ for the "Support
Contract".
SUN would be nice IF they grew a Brain, but they are still too moneyed for
that ;-)
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You obviously never worked for a company that viewed customers as
revenue streams or had to make a profit. Can't sell more hardware?
What about this new OS upgrade? Why not charge for fixing bugs in the
old OS and make everyone use the new one? Genius!
There will be people kvetching about any decision a company makes,
regardless of what it is. Interesting that you still "have issues" with
Sun's decisions about SunOS 4 -> Solaris migration. Are there other
places in your life where you have trouble "letting go"?
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Clifford Heath
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Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:35 am Post subject:
Re: GPIB board drivers for Solaris |
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David Kirkby wrote:
| Quote: | Are there any freely available GPIB board drivers for Solaris using a
National Instruments PCI based GPIB board?
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Have you considered modifying the Linux driver for Solaris? |
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