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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:31 pm    Post subject: New Readers: Monitoring weekness? Reply with quote

Pro's always claim that the major advantage of a professional alarm
monitoring is theyre 7/7 and 24/24 response time and monitoring.
That's what they argue and mention when personal monitoring is
suggested.

In reality, what's the monitoring station "guaranteed worst case alarm
transmission time" they need to the call the police and warn them
about that automated alarm reception situation?

1. What is the monitoring station police call for action delay time?
2. Is that "worst case action" time delay explicitly included in
the monitoring contract?
3. Why do they require that you provide them with responsible
persons they can contact (?) in case of intruder alarm?
4. Who reset the alarm system after an alarm?

NOTE:
Its "not monitoring station reaction time to an alarm" because
hooking off the alarm call or giving a call to a action advise
authorized person "is not" the alarm transmission time to inform the
police!

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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: New Readers: Monitoring weekness? Reply with quote

BIT OF A DUMB QUESTION REALLY BUT AS YOU ASK IT.

The worst case scenario would be NO report going from the ARC to the POLICE.

This would happen if ALL communication methods between the ARC and the
POLICE failed.

One scenario where this could happen would be NUCLEAR ATTACK, but if this
were the case who would care anyway.


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Pro's always claim that the major advantage of a professional alarm
monitoring is theyre 7/7 and 24/24 response time and monitoring.
That's what they argue and mention when personal monitoring is
suggested.

In reality, what's the monitoring station "guaranteed worst case alarm
transmission time" they need to the call the police and warn them
about that automated alarm reception situation?

1. What is the monitoring station police call for action delay time?
2. Is that "worst case action" time delay explicitly included in
the monitoring contract?
3. Why do they require that you provide them with responsible
persons they can contact (?) in case of intruder alarm?
4. Who reset the alarm system after an alarm?

NOTE:
Its "not monitoring station reaction time to an alarm" because
hooking off the alarm call or giving a call to a action advise
authorized person "is not" the alarm transmission time to inform the
police!
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: New Readers: Monitoring weekness? Reply with quote

Ok sire, you are right in extreme cases but that's not the requested
worse case time delay, it has to be considered in "normal context"
circumstances.
Its the time the monitoring station require to execute theyre standard
decision list before they call the police (after having contacted the
required persons on the standard call requested list and when no one
is available on that call list for example).

When you have read the first sentence you have certainly noted that it
is the advantages pro monitoring versus self monitoring who is the
underlying subject. But never the less, what's the "normal
circumstances" the worst case warranted police call time delay of pro
monitoring.

In Belgium it requires averaged 2 hours to have the call passed true
to the police but i'm sure, you do better.

Its amazing to see how "turn around the subject arguments" are used by
pro's or assumed to be pro's. Your remarks are correct but ridicules
and if you thinks its not, i'm quite sure you have put the right
conditional exception terms in the contract.

Paul

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:25:53 GMT, "BIG NIGE" <no.way@nolongerjose.com>
wrote:

Quote:
BIT OF A DUMB QUESTION REALLY BUT AS YOU ASK IT.

The worst case scenario would be NO report going from the ARC to the POLICE.
This would happen if ALL communication methods between the ARC and the
POLICE failed.

"-- <..>" <-pe.pe@swing_be-> wrote:

Pro's always claim that the major advantage of a professional alarm
monitoring is theyre 7/7 and 24/24 response time and monitoring.
That's what they argue and mention when personal monitoring is
suggested.

In reality, what's the monitoring station "guaranteed worst case alarm
transmission time" they need to the call the police and warn them
about that automated alarm reception situation?

1. What is the monitoring station police call for action delay time?
2. Is that "worst case action" time delay explicitly included in
the monitoring contract?
3. Why do they require that you provide them with responsible
persons they can contact (?) in case of intruder alarm?
4. Who reset the alarm system after an alarm?

NOTE:
Its "not monitoring station reaction time to an alarm" because
hooking off the alarm call or giving a call to a action advise
authorized person "is not" the alarm transmission time to inform the
police!



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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: New Readers: Monitoring weekness? Reply with quote

Subject: Re: New Readers: Monitoring weekness?
Newsgroup: uk.tech.electronic-security
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Quote:
In Belgium it requires averaged 2 hours to have the call passed true
to the police but i'm sure, you do better.


Well in the US, it averages 2 minutes. This is a non-issue for civilized
nations. I would tell you to move away from Belgium, but I know of no country
that would take you.





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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: New Readers: Monitoring weekness? Reply with quote

HeHeHeHeHeHe Very Good :-}

"G. Morgan" <alarmprosnail@snailgmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Subject: Re: New Readers: Monitoring weekness?
Newsgroup: uk.tech.electronic-security
=> -- <..> <= wrote:

In Belgium it requires averaged 2 hours to have the call passed true
to the police but i'm sure, you do better.


Well in the US, it averages 2 minutes. This is a non-issue for civilized
nations. I would tell you to move away from Belgium, but I know of no
country
that would take you.





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-Graham

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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: New Readers: Monitoring weekness? Reply with quote

"G. Morgan" <alarmprosnail@snailgmail.com> wrote in message
news:42284752.124376333@hotforteacher.org...
Quote:
Subject: Re: New Readers: Monitoring weekness?
Newsgroup: uk.tech.electronic-security
=> -- <..> <= wrote:

In Belgium it requires averaged 2 hours to have the call passed true
to the police but i'm sure, you do better.


Well in the US, it averages 2 minutes. This is a non-issue for civilized
nations.

America is a civilised nation? Well that's debatable!
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Robert Ceuppens
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: New Readers: Monitoring weekness? Reply with quote

"G. Morgan" <alarmprosnail@snailgmail.com> wrote in message
news:42284752.124376333@hotforteacher.org...
Quote:
Subject: Re: New Readers: Monitoring weekness?
Newsgroup: uk.tech.electronic-security
=> -- <..> <= wrote:

In Belgium it requires averaged 2 hours to have the call passed true
to the police but i'm sure, you do better.


Well in the US, it averages 2 minutes. This is a non-issue for civilized
nations. I would tell you to move away from Belgium, but I know of no
country
that would take you.

Here in the UK it also takes 2 mins, but only because of the built in delay,

otherwise it's instant. I didn't know Belgium was so backwards ;o)

Rob
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