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:-: Ghost Chip :-:
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:
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Look the other way of course! {;-)
GC
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Barry Lennox
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:09:30 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:48:11 -0600, the renowned "Jim Douglas"
james.douglas@genesis-software.com> wrote:
This is not the future, this is now. I am in the IT field and I am alarmed
at what information is available.
I recently saw a company had told it's employees to "Quit Smoking" or be
fired, they were going to use information from physicians to assure
compliance and on-site tests! I believe no one has the right to tell anyone
if they should smoke or not, now he does have the right to limit smoke
breaks during the day. What's next with this guy overweight, high-blood
pressure?
I sent an email to the owner of the company indicating that I would assist
financially with any lawsuit brought against him. This is one step away
from employers having access to your medical records, for example I have a
broken back, would a company refuse employment? I have been refused
employment due to age so I'm sure folks with cancer, kids with bad sickness,
high blood pressure, etc would keep some companies from hiring you!
Are there laws against companies wanting to see your medical records
as part of the hiring process? I'd want to see the maintenance records
before leasing an expensive piece of equipment.
It's refreshing to look at employment ads in places like Hong Kong
where they don't burden business with all this socialist stuff-
"wanted 23-25 year old attractive female office girl". Why not just
ask for what you want?
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I agree, but it's rather cynical for HK chinese to come to NZ and then
scream blue bloody murder about being discriminated against because of
their race!!
Barry Lennox |
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Jim Douglas
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:
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You don't get it, this is a step away from your don't look good enough,
smoking, drinking off hours, and high blood pressure have nothing to do with
a great number of jobs today! Of course if you have no arms you can't get a
warehouse person expected to drive a fork lift! But if you were a smoker and
a fork-lift driver and could do the job it should not!
"Chuck Harris" <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote in message
news:ntqdnc7_jqHNzIrfRVn-pw@rcn.net...
| Quote: | Jim Douglas wrote:
...I have been refused
employment due to age so I'm sure folks with cancer, kids with bad
sickness,
high blood pressure, etc would keep some companies from hiring you!
Shouldn't a company be able to have a reasonable expectation that their
new
hires will be physically capable of doing the job? Companies aren't
welfare
institutions.
-Chuck |
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Chuck Harris
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:51 pm Post subject:
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Jim Douglas wrote:
| Quote: | You don't get it, this is a step away from your don't look good enough,
smoking, drinking off hours, and high blood pressure have nothing to do with
a great number of jobs today! Of course if you have no arms you can't get a
warehouse person expected to drive a fork lift! But if you were a smoker and
a fork-lift driver and could do the job it should not!
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I repeat: Shouldn't a company be able to have a *reasonable* expectation
that their new hires will be physically capable of doing the job? Companies
aren't welfare institutions.
Not having enough experience to do a job is also "a step away from your(sic) don't look
good enough"
-Chuck Harris |
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Jim Douglas
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject:
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Because we were supposed to leave this stuff behind years ago.
"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
news:ocle11d17toftrot65jvh5cmkr4qg41u6i@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:48:11 -0600, the renowned "Jim Douglas"
james.douglas@genesis-software.com> wrote:
This is not the future, this is now. I am in the IT field and I am
alarmed
at what information is available.
I recently saw a company had told it's employees to "Quit Smoking" or be
fired, they were going to use information from physicians to assure
compliance and on-site tests! I believe no one has the right to tell
anyone
if they should smoke or not, now he does have the right to limit smoke
breaks during the day. What's next with this guy overweight, high-blood
pressure?
I sent an email to the owner of the company indicating that I would
assist
financially with any lawsuit brought against him. This is one step away
from employers having access to your medical records, for example I have
a
broken back, would a company refuse employment? I have been refused
employment due to age so I'm sure folks with cancer, kids with bad
sickness,
high blood pressure, etc would keep some companies from hiring you!
Are there laws against companies wanting to see your medical records
as part of the hiring process? I'd want to see the maintenance records
before leasing an expensive piece of equipment.
It's refreshing to look at employment ads in places like Hong Kong
where they don't burden business with all this socialist stuff-
"wanted 23-25 year old attractive female office girl". Why not just
ask for what you want?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Robert
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:00 am Post subject:
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"Supposed" is an item of faith.
And not all (most?) people share that faith.
Robert
"Jim Douglas" <james.douglas@genesis-software.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Because we were supposed to leave this stuff behind years ago.
"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
It's refreshing to look at employment ads in places like Hong Kong
where they don't burden business with all this socialist stuff-
"wanted 23-25 year old attractive female office girl". Why not just
ask for what you want?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany |
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