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Rich The Philosophizer
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:35:52 +0000, John Woodgate wrote:

Quote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Chris Carlen <crobc@BOGUSFIELD.sbc
global.net> wrote (in <cv5kbu01ik7@news3.newsguy.com>) about 'OT:
Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches', on Fri, 18 Feb 2005:

A wise man once said: "If I am not the problem, there is no solution."

But is that a wise dictum? Does it actually have any useful meaning?

Yes, absolutely. Everything in your outer reality is a reflection of your
inner reality.
http://www.godchannel.com/reality.html

Cheers!
Rich

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Rich Grise
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:43:29 +0000, John Woodgate wrote:

Quote:
I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote (in <78nc1159k4f6f0hqtig11b4uj
eu89mifr6@4ax.com>) about 'OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches', on
Fri, 18 Feb 2005:

Maybe you've got nothing to hide, and you don't mind, say,
getting approached by a dating company when your periodic household
purchases of feminine hygiene products and cosmetics suddenly cease.

But if you are approached by the Homicide Squad .... ?

If that's the case, then I'd either try to run, if I had any notice, or
I'd acquiesce (which wouldn't make me much of a martyr, since I seem to
have zero followers), or I'd be glad that I hadn't publically bitched too
much about Big Brother. ;-)

Hail George!
Rich
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Rich The Philosophizer
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:29:52 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:49:02 -0800, the renowned Chris Carlen
crobc@BOGUSFIELD.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:02:35 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:


http://www.adcritic.com/interactive/view.php?id=5927

...Jim Thompson


Very scary. And a lot of it is already happening.


Thanks to the Republicans.
Thanks to the Democrats.
Thanks to the Republicans.
Thanks to the Democrats.
Thanks to the Republicans.
Thanks to the Democrats.
Thanks to the Republicans.
Thanks to the Democrats.
...

It will only get worse, as long as we believe the government is the
solution to all the problems caused by the government, and all the other
problems too.

The government could certainly help by passing privacy laws to prevent
certain types of sharing of information. Most large companies will
obey at least the letter of the law and privacy will be protected to
at some extent.

If there is no law against it, and there's a buck to be made, someone
will do it, it's inevitable. Depends what kind of a world you want to
live it. Maybe you've got nothing to hide, and you don't mind, say,
getting approached by a dating company when your periodic household
purchases of feminine hygiene products and cosmetics suddenly cease.

A wise man once said: "If I am not the problem, there is no solution."
Good day!

Everything that you perceive to be outside of yourself is actually a
reflection of something inside yourself. The only way to know what's
around you is through your perceptions, and all of your perceptions
are inside you:
http://www.godchannel.com/reality.html

Cheers!
Rich

for further information, please visit http://www.godchannel.com

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John Woodgate
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Philosophizer
<rtp@example.net> wrote (in <pan.2005.02.19.02.11.15.818634@example.net>
) about 'OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches', on Sat, 19 Feb 2005:

Quote:
Everything that you perceive to be outside of yourself is actually a
reflection of something inside yourself.

What, then, are you the reflection of that is inside me? Can I have it
removed? (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
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Jim Douglas
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
This is not the future, this is now. I am in the IT field and I am alarmed
at what information is available.

I recently saw a company had told it's employees to "Quit Smoking" or be
fired, they were going to use information from physicians to assure
compliance and on-site tests! I believe no one has the right to tell anyone
if they should smoke or not, now he does have the right to limit smoke
breaks during the day. What's next with this guy overweight, high-blood
pressure?

I sent an email to the owner of the company indicating that I would assist
financially with any lawsuit brought against him. This is one step away
from employers having access to your medical records, for example I have a
broken back, would a company refuse employment? I have been refused
employment due to age so I'm sure folks with cancer, kids with bad sickness,
high blood pressure, etc would keep some companies from hiring you!


"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:9b4c115m81ir08k8k10gha2adra73oemh2@4ax.com...
Quote:
http://www.adcritic.com/interactive/view.php?id=5927

...Jim Thompson
--
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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Chuck Harris
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
Jim Douglas wrote:
....I have been refused
Quote:
employment due to age so I'm sure folks with cancer, kids with bad sickness,
high blood pressure, etc would keep some companies from hiring you!

Shouldn't a company be able to have a reasonable expectation that their new
hires will be physically capable of doing the job? Companies aren't welfare
institutions.

-Chuck
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Spehro Pefhany
Guest
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:48:11 -0600, the renowned "Jim Douglas"
<james.douglas@genesis-software.com> wrote:

Quote:
This is not the future, this is now. I am in the IT field and I am alarmed
at what information is available.

I recently saw a company had told it's employees to "Quit Smoking" or be
fired, they were going to use information from physicians to assure
compliance and on-site tests! I believe no one has the right to tell anyone
if they should smoke or not, now he does have the right to limit smoke
breaks during the day. What's next with this guy overweight, high-blood
pressure?

I sent an email to the owner of the company indicating that I would assist
financially with any lawsuit brought against him. This is one step away
from employers having access to your medical records, for example I have a
broken back, would a company refuse employment? I have been refused
employment due to age so I'm sure folks with cancer, kids with bad sickness,
high blood pressure, etc would keep some companies from hiring you!

Are there laws against companies wanting to see your medical records
as part of the hiring process? I'd want to see the maintenance records
before leasing an expensive piece of equipment.

It's refreshing to look at employment ads in places like Hong Kong
where they don't burden business with all this socialist stuff-
"wanted 23-25 year old attractive female office girl". Why not just
ask for what you want?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
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Robert
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:xCv5GgC+fwFCFw95@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
Quote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Philosophizer
rtp@example.net> wrote (in <pan.2005.02.19.02.11.15.818634@example.net
) about 'OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches', on Sat, 19 Feb 2005:

Everything that you perceive to be outside of yourself is actually a
reflection of something inside yourself.

What, then, are you the reflection of that is inside me? Can I have it
removed? (;-)

"Reality is what trips you when you walk around with your eyes closed."

Robert
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Rich The Philosophizer
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:33:50 +0000, John Woodgate wrote:

Quote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Philosophizer
rtp@example.net> wrote (in <pan.2005.02.19.02.11.15.818634@example.net
) about 'OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches', on Sat, 19 Feb 2005:

Everything that you perceive to be outside of yourself is actually a
reflection of something inside yourself.

What, then, are you the reflection of that is inside me? Can I have it
removed? (;-)

Well, I am merely a guest in your venue. :-)

But, as far as identifying in yourself what has attracted me to your
reality, that's your prerogative. And it can be a delightful adventure.
:-)

Thanks,
Rich

for further information, please visit http://www.godchannel.com
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John Woodgate
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
I read in sci.electronics.design that Robert <Robert@yahoo.com> wrote
(in <MFLRd.976$873.424@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>) about 'OT:
Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches', on Sat, 19 Feb 2005:
Quote:

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:xCv5GgC+fwFCFw95@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Philosophizer
rtp@example.net> wrote (in <pan.2005.02.19.02.11.15.818634@example.net
) about 'OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches', on Sat, 19 Feb 2005:

Everything that you perceive to be outside of yourself is actually a
reflection of something inside yourself.

What, then, are you the reflection of that is inside me? Can I have it
removed? (;-)

"Reality is what trips you when you walk around with your eyes closed."

True, but Rich is a bit too far away for me to trip over. Unless he's

achieved omnipresence, of course. (;-)
Quote:


--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
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Robert
Guest
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
Quote:
"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:xCv5GgC+fwFCFw95@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Philosophizer
rtp@example.net> wrote (in <pan.2005.02.19.02.11.15.818634@example.net
) about 'OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches', on Sat, 19 Feb 2005:

Everything that you perceive to be outside of yourself is actually a
reflection of something inside yourself.

What, then, are you the reflection of that is inside me? Can I have it
removed? (;-)

"Reality is what trips you when you walk around with your eyes closed."

True, but Rich is a bit too far away for me to trip over. Unless he's
achieved omnipresence, of course. (;-)

Just one of the standard rebuttals to Solipsism.

Unless you're a masochist. ;-)

Robert
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Spehro Pefhany
Guest
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:36:46 +1300, the renowned Barry Lennox
<rianz.15.barryl@neverbox.com> wrote:

Quote:
I agree, but it's rather cynical for HK chinese to come to NZ and then
scream blue bloody murder about being discriminated against because of
their race!!

Barry Lennox

;-) Maybe that's why they left.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
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Robert
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
"Jim Douglas" <james.douglas@genesis-software.com> wrote in message
news:nPOdnd4bD5nueIrfRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
Quote:
You don't get it, this is a step away from your don't look good enough,
smoking, drinking off hours, and high blood pressure have nothing to do
with
a great number of jobs today! Of course if you have no arms you can't get
a
warehouse person expected to drive a fork lift! But if you were a smoker
and
a fork-lift driver and could do the job it should not!


A step back to more like it used to be. Drinking and smoking could get you
fired on moral grounds in a lot of places in the US. Though that was
enforced more on Women than Men. They also could get fired for wearing pants
and a lot of other reasons.

Robert
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Rich The Philosophizer
Guest
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:32:45 -0700, :-: Ghost Chip :-: wrote:

Quote:
Look the other way of course! {;-)

No, actually that would be Denial, which caused all of the problems in the
first place:
http://www.godchannel.com/redemption.html

Cheers!
Rich

for further information, please visit http://www.godchannel.com
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:-: Ghost Chip :-:
Guest
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Funny/Scary, Big Brother Watches Reply with quote
"Rich The Philosophizer" <rtp@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.02.19.02.11.15.818634@example.net...
Quote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:29:52 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:49:02 -0800, the renowned Chris Carlen
crobc@BOGUSFIELD.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:02:35 -0700, the renowned Jim
Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:


http://www.adcritic.com/interactive/view.php?id=5927

...Jim Thompson


Very scary. And a lot of it is already happening.


Thanks to the Republicans.
Thanks to the Democrats.
Thanks to the Republicans.
Thanks to the Democrats.
Thanks to the Republicans.
Thanks to the Democrats.
Thanks to the Republicans.
Thanks to the Democrats.
...

It will only get worse, as long as we believe the government
is the
solution to all the problems caused by the government, and
all the other
problems too.

The government could certainly help by passing privacy laws
to prevent
certain types of sharing of information. Most large companies
will
obey at least the letter of the law and privacy will be
protected to
at some extent.

If there is no law against it, and there's a buck to be made,
someone
will do it, it's inevitable. Depends what kind of a world you
want to
live it. Maybe you've got nothing to hide, and you don't
mind, say,
getting approached by a dating company when your periodic
household
purchases of feminine hygiene products and cosmetics suddenly
cease.

A wise man once said: "If I am not the problem, there is no
solution."
Good day!

Everything that you perceive to be outside of yourself is
actually a
reflection of something inside yourself. The only way to know
what's
around you is through your perceptions, and all of your
perceptions
are inside you:
http://www.godchannel.com/reality.html

Cheers!
Rich

for further information, please visit
http://www.godchannel.com

Oh NO! From the way the world looks, I must really be screwed

up royal. What do I do now?
GC
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