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Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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James Beck skrev:
| Quote: | In article <pn8mf.24763$BZ5.22600@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net says...
Hello Folks,
I just had the 'pleasure' to see digital cable at a neighbors house,
just because the TV happened to be on when we were there. The image was
'pixely' and kind of ok when viewed from the usual distance.
However, the real disappointment came during a car ad. The usual, a
sporty car driven around a race track. There were huge lags in the
movement and the rear of the car was gravely distorted. It looked as if
the data path was choking.
Is this what we are going to get once the analog channels are turned off?
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com
Just because his set, and maybe even the feed, was "digital" the source
material is usually the weak link. I have a 42" HDTV with digital cable
and let me tell you, the Discovery HD Channel is beyond belief. They
use nothing but the best quality source material and I could see the
individual scales on the reef fish during one program. But you know the
old saying GIGO.
Jim
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I've heard theres a bit of a panic spreading because some of the pretty
tv and
movies celebs don't look quite as pretty on hdtv ;)
-Lasse
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Luhan
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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Joerg wrote:
| Quote: | Hello Folks,
I just had the 'pleasure' to see digital cable at a neighbors house,
just because the TV happened to be on when we were there. The image was
'pixely' and kind of ok when viewed from the usual distance.
However, the real disappointment came during a car ad. The usual, a
sporty car driven around a race track. There were huge lags in the
movement and the rear of the car was gravely distorted. It looked as if
the data path was choking.
Is this what we are going to get once the analog channels are turned off?
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com
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Hi,
Anybody ever think of putting up a FREE SATELITE (like the BBC did)?
Run it just like any other broadcast (funded solely by comercials), only
hit about 1/3 of planet earth for your 'local' viewers.
Luhan |
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:28 am Post subject:
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Luhan wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
Anybody ever think of putting up a FREE SATELITE (like the BBC did)?
Run it just like any other broadcast (funded solely by comercials), only
hit about 1/3 of planet earth for your 'local' viewers.
Luhan
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I hate to break the news to you, but satellites aren't 'free'. The
British (and many other governments) are already in the broadcast TV
business, so scraping up a few hundred million in taxpayer dollars to
launch one isn't a big problem.
Here in the US of A, broadcasting is a private business. Government
financial involvement would be politically unacceptable. Private
enterprise has several alternatives available to raise the needed
capital. It has chosen the one that it believes is economically
efficient: subscription satellite service. The alternative, advertizing
supported TV might require too many minutes of ads for the public to
tolerate.
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Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com
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Life is like a buffet. Its not very good but there's plenty of it.
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Pooh Bear
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
| Quote: | Luhan wrote:
[snip]
Hi,
Anybody ever think of putting up a FREE SATELITE (like the BBC did)?
Run it just like any other broadcast (funded solely by comercials), only
hit about 1/3 of planet earth for your 'local' viewers.
Luhan
I hate to break the news to you, but satellites aren't 'free'. The
British (and many other governments) are already in the broadcast TV
business, so scraping up a few hundred million in taxpayer dollars to
launch one isn't a big problem.
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The BBC isn't a government organisation !
A classic mistake made by 'mercuns.
And no it isn't a 'quasi' government organisation either. You should see
the flak it gets sometimes when it's *critical* of government
action. In fact I suspect it's more free to criticise government than
your US media organistions as it's not beholden to investor interests
either.
Graham |
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Mac
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:04:58 +0000, Pooh Bear wrote:
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Chris Jones wrote:
apologies for snippage to the really interesting content
Yes but think of all the money the government will make when they sell off
all of the analogue spectrum to the highest bidder.
And this of course is *really* what it's all about !
I have just been reading a 1949 Wireless World magazine. The French were
broadcasting 819 line signals from the Eiffel tower back then.
Never underestimate the French. Their technical skills are often obscured by the
common obsession with the supposed fantastic German technology but only for
example, in France is 75-80% of the electricity generated by nuclear yet no one
as much a makes a murmur about it and it has operated safely for decades.
They also have trains so fast that they are a serious competitor to jet travel.
Graham
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Once I missed a flight out of Zurich because the bus from Chamonix
(French Alps) to Geneva broke down. It was a record-breaking cold
winter. There was even snow in Nice, I was told.
Apparently the bus wouldn't run because the fuel was so cold that it kind
of gelled. At least that was the explanation the driver gave for why he
lit a broom on fire and held it under the fuel tank.
Eventually, another bus came and rescued us.
When I finally got to the airport at Zurich, 30 minutes or so after the
scheduled flight time, I asked the Swissair rep if the flight had left
already. Of course it had.
When I explained what happened, he seemed very concerned. "Was it a Swiss
bus?" he asked.
"No, it was a French bus."
"Ahhhh." A long sigh of relief. "If it had been a Swiss bus, this would
not have happened."
After that he efficiently helped me book the next available flight (the
next day) to SFO.
--Mac |
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John S. Dyson
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject:
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In article <439ba187$0$82631$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
Luhan wrote:
[snip]
Hi,
Anybody ever think of putting up a FREE SATELITE (like the BBC did)?
Run it just like any other broadcast (funded solely by comercials), only
hit about 1/3 of planet earth for your 'local' viewers.
Luhan
I hate to break the news to you, but satellites aren't 'free'. The
British (and many other governments) are already in the broadcast TV
business, so scraping up a few hundred million in taxpayer dollars to
launch one isn't a big problem.
The BBC isn't a government organisation !
A classic mistake made by 'mercuns.
Wrong... Follow the money -- and the required television tax. You |
might use some games to obscure the fact that the BBC is supported
by the government, but there is too much government support to suggest
that it isn't. The BBC is apparently similar to the NPR (except NPR is
more viewer/business contribution supported.)
If you can claim that it isn't the government that has the vans that enforce
the tax (and the much of the tax doesn't go to the BBC), then you might have
an argument.
John |
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Joerg
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Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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Hello Paul,
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What brand of STB was used? What brand of TV?
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Don't remember the brand of the TV but it is one of the top notch ones.
The STB was probably whatever comes with Comcast cable.
When it comes to stuff such as TV I follow the more consumer oriented
approach. The consumer usually doesn't care about what technology is in
which box. All they care about is whether the picture is nice. And this
one sure wasn't.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com |
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Joerg
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Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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Hello Graham,
| Quote: | Never underestimate the French. Their technical skills are often obscured by the
common obsession with the supposed fantastic German technology but only for
example, in France is 75-80% of the electricity generated by nuclear yet no one
as much a makes a murmur about it and it has operated safely for decades.
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Their technology is indeed quite good. The problem is often in the
quality of the products. I drove a few French cars over there and while
their road handling was excellent they came to grief not because of any
accident but because they simply corroded away. Then I bought a German
Audi and even after a decade there was not the tiniest spec of rust. In
fact, the guy who bought it from me said recently that it's running just
fine and it's going on 20 years now. I never had to buy any spare parts
except for brake pads and tires. This was quite different for the French
cars we had.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com |
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