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kell
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:35 am    Post subject: forward converter duty cycle question Reply with quote

Looking at the forward converter topology illustrated here:
http://schmidt-walter.fbe.fh-darmstadt.de/smps_e/edw_hilfe_e.html
They specify a maximum duty cycle of 50%.
Is this predicated on N1 and N1' having an equal number of turns?
It seems to me you get a longer duty cycle by reducing the number of
turns on N1'.

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: forward converter duty cycle question Reply with quote

"kell" <kellrobinson@billburg.com> wrote in message
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Looking at the forward converter topology illustrated here:
http://schmidt-walter.fbe.fh-darmstadt.de/smps_e/edw_hilfe_e.html
They specify a maximum duty cycle of 50%.
Is this predicated on N1 and N1' having an equal number of turns?
It seems to me you get a longer duty cycle by reducing the number of
turns on N1'.


I think it's to keep the transformer from saturating.

John
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kell
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: forward converter duty cycle question Reply with quote

John - kd5yi wrote:
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"kell" <kellrobinson@billburg.com> wrote in message
news:1132981991.437785.129000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Looking at the forward converter topology illustrated here:
http://schmidt-walter.fbe.fh-darmstadt.de/smps_e/edw_hilfe_e.html
They specify a maximum duty cycle of 50%.
Is this predicated on N1 and N1' having an equal number of turns?
It seems to me you get a longer duty cycle by reducing the number of
turns on N1'.


I think it's to keep the transformer from saturating.

John
I know. The magnetic field needs time to collapse. I'm asking does

the mag field collapse faster with fewer
turns on N1'.

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John - kd5yi
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: forward converter duty cycle question Reply with quote

"kell" <kellrobinson@billburg.com> wrote in message
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John - kd5yi wrote:
"kell" <kellrobinson@billburg.com> wrote in message
news:1132981991.437785.129000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Looking at the forward converter topology illustrated here:
http://schmidt-walter.fbe.fh-darmstadt.de/smps_e/edw_hilfe_e.html
They specify a maximum duty cycle of 50%.
Is this predicated on N1 and N1' having an equal number of turns?
It seems to me you get a longer duty cycle by reducing the number of
turns on N1'.


I think it's to keep the transformer from saturating.

John
I know. The magnetic field needs time to collapse. I'm asking does
the mag field collapse faster with fewer
turns on N1'.


Yes. However, note that the transistor's drain voltage would then be
Vin+(N1*Vin/N1'). The series diode on the secondary would also see higher
voltage (Vin*N2/N1').

John
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: forward converter duty cycle question Reply with quote

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Yes. However, note that the transistor's drain voltage would then be
Vin+(N1*Vin/N1').

Ouch.
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kell
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: forward converter duty cycle question Reply with quote

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Yes. However, note that the transistor's drain voltage would then be
Vin+(N1*Vin/N1').

That means when N1=N1', drain voltage is 2Vin. I didn't know that.
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John - KD5YI
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: forward converter duty cycle question Reply with quote

kell wrote:
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Yes. However, note that the transistor's drain voltage would then be
Vin+(N1*Vin/N1').


That means when N1=N1', drain voltage is 2Vin. I didn't know that.




You must have missed it. 5th paragraph below the schematic it says...

"Due to this the transistor drain-source voltage steps up to Vds > 2Vin when
the transistor is turned off."

Sorry.

John
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