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John Fields
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Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:36:11 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:06:18 -0000, Big Mouth Billy Bas
nannerbac@yahoo.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 06:48:08 -0000, vi
op.s0kvuio4wabk2w@blue.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker
no@spam.co
spake thusly
And oh by the way, your use of the word "pedant" is also incorrect
You just shot yourself in the foot
Or perhaps you just showed your inability to use and understand
dictionary. Try again
Or perhaps I don't give a shit about precision meanings
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Well, perhaps you should. Here's one from some of your boys
The Animal
DON'T LET ME BE MISUNDERSTOO
(Benjamin/Marcus/Caldwell
Baby, do you understand me no
Sometimes I feel a little ma
Well don't you know that no-one aliv
Can always be an ange
When things go wrong I seem to be ba
I'm just a soul who's intentions are goo
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstoo
Baby, sometimes I'm so carefre
With a joy that's hard to hid
And sometimes it seems tha
All I have to do is worr
And then you're bound to see my other sid
I'm just a soul who's intentions are goo
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstoo
If I seem edgy, I want you to kno
That I never mean to take it out on yo
Life has it's problems and I get my shar
And that's one thing I never mean to d
'cause I love yo
Oh, oh, oh, baby, don't you know I'm huma
Have thoughts like any other on
Sometimes I find myself alone and regrettin
Some foolish thing, some little simple thing I've don
I'm just a soul who's intentions are goo
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstoo
Yes, I'm just a soul who's intentions are goo
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstoo
Yes, I'm just a soul who's intentions are goo
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstoo
Yes, I'm just a soul who's intentions are goo
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstoo
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John Field
Professional Circuit Designe
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Big Mouth Billy Bass
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Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:36:11 -0000, via
<op.s0okmldtwabk2w@blue.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com>
spake thusly:
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:06:18 -0000, Big Mouth Billy Bass <nannerbac@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 06:48:08 -0000, via
op.s0kvuio4wabk2w@blue.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
spake thusly:
And oh by the way, your use of the word "pedant" is also incorrect.
You just shot yourself in the foot.
Or perhaps you just showed your inability to use and understand a
dictionary. Try again.
Or perhaps I don't give a shit about precision meanings.
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Yeah, that would serve you quite well when working with 500KV, or
sensitive communication gear, or precise avionics, servo-mechanisms,
etc etc etc, wouldn't it? As in, it says "-48VDC," but voltage is
voltage, so I'll go ahead and be imprecise and apply 120VAC. Or how
about, this device uses 60Hz, but I'm British, so I'll go ahead and
use 50Hz, I don't give a shit about precision meanings. Good stuff,
mate, thanks for the laughs. |
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service@bitcoelectronics.
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Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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Ding..."And theeeer'es the bell, fighters return to your corners! Whew,
this thread has been awesome! OK girls, my turn.
The reason that extension cord use is being increasingly written into
instruction manuals and labeling on consumer grade equipment is for
legal protection of the manufacturer or brander. People are bound to do
stupid things, and in this country they tend to want to sue companies
afterwards. Hence, shampoo bottles discouraging eating of the contents
and bicycles with stickers all over them saying not for night use.
There is no electrical reason why an extension cord can not be used
with any appliance, and of course it is necessary to use one of the
proper gauge.
Part of this flame war appears to have been one poster's use of the
word electrocution. By definition, that word means to have been killed
by electric current. Who ever said that common use is to refer to any
electric shock is wrong. My students do that all the time, and I always
correct them. Shocked is shocked. Dead is dead. Apparently, this
individual also chose to use the word "pedant" improperly as well. Ah
well, so much for 6th Grade English class. He goes on to say that he
doesn't walk around with a dictionary in his throat. Perhaps he should.
Defending that which is wrong, not only does not make it right, it's
also painfully illogical.
Furthermore, if you get shocked by a drill and fall off a ladder, the
cause of death is the broken neck or head trauma, not the electric
drill. A coroner or M.E. would find the cause of death to be the actual
cause of death, not the circumstances under which the poor sap died.
Generally, AC kills by power dissipation. In other words, your body,
which has a resistance impedes the flow of current, resulting in a
voltage drop. this causes the body to dissipate heat. In essence,
you're getting cooked. Done to a turn, in fact. If you take a hot dog,
and stick the stripped end of the hot side of a standard 16/3 pigtail
power cord into one end, while inserting the stripped end of the
neutral lead into the other you will be able to cook your dog to crispy
deliciousness in about 3 to 5 minutes. If you touch the weiner during
this process, you will not be electrocuted nor will you be shocked. You
may however, burn your fingers.
Alright, it's necessary here, to state that it is actually the friction
caused by the changing of polarity of the water molecules in your body,
but you get the gist.
Here in the United States, we have a place called Florida. Florida has
a device they affectionately dub "Ol' Sparky". The electrodes of said
device, are connected (H) to your head, (N) to your left leg, a
parallel (H) around your upper torso to your spine and (N) to your
right arm. Current is then applied in bursts of 60 seconds, 30 seconds
and again at 60 seconds. The reason for turning it on and off like that
is to keep the body from catching fire, while insuring that the poor
mook is "most sincerely dead." In the early days, several individuals
did indeed burst into flames.
I saw one post in here which used Ohms law to show Vdrop/foot of copper
wire. Good math, and indeed correct for DC. AC however has
significantly lower losses in copper wire. In order to do the
equivalent calculation for AC, one would need to calculate for Z
(impedance). In any but the most extreme cases, copper wire offers
almost no noticeable impedance. Can you imagine what the energy loss
and ensuant heat dissapation would be, in long wire runs, from
substations in rural areas, were this not so?
I'd like to keep going with this, as I saw so much I wanted to comment
on. Unfortunately, this rant has already gone into extra innings.
Remember that everything I said was intended only to add to the
existing dialogue and not to, in any way, offend.
That being said, let the flames commence.
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Peter Hucker
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:28 am Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:15:24 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:36:11 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:06:18 -0000, Big Mouth Billy Bass <nannerbac@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 06:48:08 -0000, via
op.s0kvuio4wabk2w@blue.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
spake thusly:
And oh by the way, your use of the word "pedant" is also incorrect.
You just shot yourself in the foot.
Or perhaps you just showed your inability to use and understand a
dictionary. Try again.
Or perhaps I don't give a shit about precision meanings.
---
Well, perhaps you should. Here's one from some of your boys:
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You mean a Brit? I don't have any sons.
And I don't like poetry or believe in god, so [ignores]
| Quote: | The Animals
DON'T LET ME BE MISUNDERSTOOD
(Benjamin/Marcus/Caldwell)
Baby, do you understand me now
Sometimes I feel a little mad
Well don't you know that no-one alive
Can always be an angel
When things go wrong I seem to be bad
I'm just a soul who's intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
Baby, sometimes I'm so carefree
With a joy that's hard to hide
And sometimes it seems that
All I have to do is worry
And then you're bound to see my other side
I'm just a soul who's intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
If I seem edgy, I want you to know
That I never mean to take it out on you
Life has it's problems and I get my share
And that's one thing I never mean to do
'cause I love you
Oh, oh, oh, baby, don't you know I'm human
Have thoughts like any other one
Sometimes I find myself alone and regretting
Some foolish thing, some little simple thing I've done
I'm just a soul who's intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
Yes, I'm just a soul who's intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
Yes, I'm just a soul who's intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
Yes, I'm just a soul who's intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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H lp! S m b d st l ll th v w ls fr m m k yb rd! |
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Peter Hucker
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:37 am Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:40:44 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:41:28 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:12:26 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 06:44:07 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:19:09 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
If you'd offered help which wasn't precisely aligned with the
request for help, but which was, nonetheless, an attempt to help,
one could understand your reaching out, trying to help.
However, all you were doing was saying "I'm better than you are
because I'm British, and our electrical outlets are better than
yours are because ours are British, and our extension cords are
better than yours are because they're British, and on and on, ad
nauseam.
No, I was discussing the differences.
---
You're a liar. What you've been, from the outset, is critical of
our system without even understanding how it works.
I've pointed out what's wrong with it, and you have not proved otherwise.
---
You've merely stated what your _opinion_ is. You know nothing about
the technical details of either system and are, therefore,
unqualifies to make even a basic assessment of what's better and
what's worse.
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You've told me enough details to show it is less safe than the UK system in some respects. By the way I discussed it with an electrical engineer, and he told me the US system is terribly unsafe.
| Quote: | As a matter of fact I don't even know what you're doing here other
than flapping your jaws, since I've checked out some of your posting
history and you seem to be little more than a wannabe jester.
Trolling, perhaps?
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I subscribed to the group to ask a question, and noticed a couple of posts to reply to.
| Quote: | You have however pointed out what's wrong with ours.
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And do you agree with me?
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Yes.
| Quote: | The Americans may be egotistical but the Brits are not.
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Another attempt at a crappy joke?
It wasn't a joke.
---
Then you're even stupider than you seem to be, since some of _all_
of us are egotistical.
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Agreed, but more of the Americans are egotistical, and to a greater extent.
| Quote: | Why do you assume everyone is having a go at you?
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I don't.
You assume I am having a go at you for some reason.
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You are hardly "everyone", and what you're doing is trying
desperately to keep from drowning.
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What I'm doing is asking you why you think I'm having a go at you when I'm not.
| Quote: | What I would like to see are more technical discussions where smug
little troublemakers like you can learn to discuss the issues
without throwing barbs around.
I AM discussing the issues.
---
You're skirting the issues, which are the differences between the
British and the American electrical systems.
Think about it and I'm sure you'll agree.
After all, before I told you you didn't know what a 120V or 240V US
domestic power receptacle looked like, you didn't know that we have
a 240V feed into nearly every home in this country, (with a capacity
of at least 200 amperes, I'd guess)
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What on earth do you do with 48kW???
| Quote: | As for the rest of it, it's just off-topic bullshit which you seem
unable to control.
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You have an obsession with staying precisely on topic. I'm sure you've got German blood in you.
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Peter Hucker
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:38 am Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:40:45 -0000, Big Mouth Billy Bass <nannerbac@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:36:11 -0000, via
op.s0okmldtwabk2w@blue.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
spake thusly:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:06:18 -0000, Big Mouth Billy Bass <nannerbac@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 06:48:08 -0000, via
op.s0kvuio4wabk2w@blue.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
spake thusly:
And oh by the way, your use of the word "pedant" is also incorrect.
You just shot yourself in the foot.
Or perhaps you just showed your inability to use and understand a
dictionary. Try again.
Or perhaps I don't give a shit about precision meanings.
Yeah, that would serve you quite well when working with 500KV, or
sensitive communication gear, or precise avionics, servo-mechanisms,
etc etc etc, wouldn't it? As in, it says "-48VDC," but voltage is
voltage, so I'll go ahead and be imprecise and apply 120VAC. Or how
about, this device uses 60Hz, but I'm British, so I'll go ahead and
use 50Hz, I don't give a shit about precision meanings. Good stuff,
mate, thanks for the laughs.
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Precision in English conversation is not the same as precision in mathematics, electronics, etc. Why can't you distinguish between the two?
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Bob Monsen
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:03 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 04:15:24 -0600, John Fields wrote:
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The Animals
DON'T LET ME BE MISUNDERSTOOD
(Benjamin/Marcus/Caldwell)
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John, I wouldn't have taken you to be an "Animals" fan...
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Bob Monsen
God ever arithmetizes.
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John Fields
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:25 am Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On 23 Nov 2005 07:49:11 -0800, "service@bitcoelectronics.com"
<service@bitcoelectronics.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Ding..."And theeeer'es the bell, fighters return to your corners! Whew,
this thread has been awesome! OK girls, my turn.
Generally, AC kills by power dissipation. In other words, your body,
which has a resistance impedes the flow of current, resulting in a
voltage drop. this causes the body to dissipate heat. In essence,
you're getting cooked. Done to a turn, in fact. If you take a hot dog,
and stick the stripped end of the hot side of a standard 16/3 pigtail
power cord into one end, while inserting the stripped end of the
neutral lead into the other you will be able to cook your dog to crispy
deliciousness in about 3 to 5 minutes. If you touch the weiner during
this process, you will not be electrocuted nor will you be shocked. You
may however, burn your fingers.
Alright, it's necessary here, to state that it is actually the friction
caused by the changing of polarity of the water molecules in your body,
but you get the gist.
Here in the United States, we have a place called Florida. Florida has
a device they affectionately dub "Ol' Sparky". The electrodes of said
device, are connected (H) to your head, (N) to your left leg, a
parallel (H) around your upper torso to your spine and (N) to your
right arm. Current is then applied in bursts of 60 seconds, 30 seconds
and again at 60 seconds. The reason for turning it on and off like that
is to keep the body from catching fire, while insuring that the poor
mook is "most sincerely dead." In the early days, several individuals
did indeed burst into flames.
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While "Ol' Sparky" makes sure that the the individual is, in fact,
cooked, death probably occurs because of ventricular fibrillation
long before anything even gets warm.
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| Quote: | I saw one post in here which used Ohms law to show Vdrop/foot of copper
wire. Good math, and indeed correct for DC. AC however has
significantly lower losses in copper wire.
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Sorry, that's wrong. For a resistive load, the loss in the cable
will be the same for AC as for DC.
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| Quote: | in order to do the
equivalent calculation for AC, one would need to calculate for Z
(impedance). In any but the most extreme cases, copper wire offers
almost no noticeable impedance.
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Wrong again. For a series circuit:
Z = sqrt (R² + (Xl)²)
Where Z is the impedance of the line,
R is the resistance of the line, and
Xl is the inductive reactance of the line.
The inductive reactance, Xl is defined as:
Xl = 2pi f L
Where f is the frequency of the sinusoidal waveform on the line, and
L is the inductance of the line,
So it's easy to see that Xl goes with frequency.
Consequently, for DC the impedance of the line will be its
resistance, while for AC the inductive reactance has to be taken
into consideration and the impedance of the line will _always_ be
greater for AC than for DC.
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| Quote: | Can you imagine what the energy loss
and ensuant heat dissapation would be, in long wire runs, from
substations in rural areas, were this not so?
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And, wrong once again!
The reason those losses aren't that great isn't because AC somehow
lowers the impedance of the line, (which it doesn't, as I showed
earlier,) it's because power is transmitted over long distances at
high voltages and low currents and then, at the load end of the
line, transformed down to the familiar 240V/120V we see in our
homes.
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John Fields
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:28:08 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:15:24 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:36:11 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:06:18 -0000, Big Mouth Billy Bass <nannerbac@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 06:48:08 -0000, via
op.s0kvuio4wabk2w@blue.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
spake thusly:
And oh by the way, your use of the word "pedant" is also incorrect.
You just shot yourself in the foot.
Or perhaps you just showed your inability to use and understand a
dictionary. Try again.
Or perhaps I don't give a shit about precision meanings.
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Well, perhaps you should. Here's one from some of your boys:
You mean a Brit? I don't have any sons.
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I thought you didn't care for precision in verbal discourse...
Clearly you understood what I meant, so what's the bullshit for?
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| Quote: | And I don't like poetry or believe in god, so [ignores]
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You get a little more unsavory with each post, don't you?
Kinda like:
The Beatles
Mean Mr. Mustard
by Unknown
Mean Mr. Mustard sleeps in the park
Shaves in the dark
Trying to save paper
Sleeps in a hole in the road
Saving up to buy some clothes
Keeps a ten-bob note up his nose
Such a mean old man
Such a mean old man
His sister Pam works in a shop
She never stops
She's a go-getter
Takes him out to look at the queen
Only place that he's ever been
Always shouts out something obscene
Such a dirty old man
Dirty old man
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John Fields
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Peter Hucker
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:14:58 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:28:08 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:15:24 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:36:11 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:06:18 -0000, Big Mouth Billy Bass <nannerbac@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 06:48:08 -0000, via
op.s0kvuio4wabk2w@blue.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
spake thusly:
Or perhaps you just showed your inability to use and understand a
dictionary. Try again.
Or perhaps I don't give a shit about precision meanings.
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Well, perhaps you should. Here's one from some of your boys:
You mean a Brit? I don't have any sons.
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I thought you didn't care for precision in verbal discourse...
Clearly you understood what I meant, so what's the bullshit for?
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I took a guess. I wasn't sure if that's what you meant. What you used is presumably American slang, not an imprecise word.
| Quote: | And I don't like poetry or believe in god, so [ignores]
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You get a little more unsavory with each post, don't you?
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What now? Don't tell me you're religious? Please don't fall into the image I have of over-religious Americans....
| Quote: | Kinda like:
The Beatles
Mean Mr. Mustard
by Unknown
Mean Mr. Mustard sleeps in the park
Shaves in the dark
Trying to save paper
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If you saw the wages we get over here......
| Quote: | Sleeps in a hole in the road
Saving up to buy some clothes
Keeps a ten-bob note up his nose
Such a mean old man
Such a mean old man
His sister Pam works in a shop
She never stops
She's a go-getter
Takes him out to look at the queen
Only place that he's ever been
Always shouts out something obscene
Such a dirty old man
Dirty old man
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A woman sends her clothing out to the Chinese laundry. When it comes back there are still stains in her panties. The next week she encloses a note to the Chinaman that says, "Use more soap on panties."
This goes on for several weeks, the woman sending the same note to the laundry.
Finally fed up the Chinaman responded with his own note that said, "Use more paper on ass." |
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John Fields
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:03:49 -0800, Bob Monsen
<rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 04:15:24 -0600, John Fields wrote:
The Animals
DON'T LET ME BE MISUNDERSTOOD
(Benjamin/Marcus/Caldwell)
John, I wouldn't have taken you to be an "Animals" fan...
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I wasn't, much, but I've always remembered the "Oh Lord, please
don't let me be misunderstood." lyric.
My favorites, back then, were Jefferson Airplane, Greatful Dead,
Janis, Procol Harum, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Hendrix, Rotary
Connection,... and, Beatles and Stones.
And, Country Joe and The Fish, and on and on...
Nothing quite like listening to the Dead in Central Park, free,
behind a hit of blotter.
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John Fields
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John Fields
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:20:30 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:14:58 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:28:08 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:15:24 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:36:11 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:06:18 -0000, Big Mouth Billy Bass <nannerbac@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 06:48:08 -0000, via
op.s0kvuio4wabk2w@blue.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
spake thusly:
Or perhaps you just showed your inability to use and understand a
dictionary. Try again.
Or perhaps I don't give a shit about precision meanings.
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Well, perhaps you should. Here's one from some of your boys:
You mean a Brit? I don't have any sons.
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I thought you didn't care for precision in verbal discourse...
Clearly you understood what I meant, so what's the bullshit for?
I took a guess. I wasn't sure if that's what you meant. What you used is presumably American slang, not an imprecise word.
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Well, for starters, since I didn't know anything about whether you
had kids or not, you should have known that and ruled it out.
Second, since the lyrics are from an "Animals" song and they're
Brits, ("your boys") I thought you might be able to put two and two
together and relate the "Oh Lord, please don't let me be
misunderstood." part to why it's important to be precise when
communicating using the written word. Obviously, I was wrong.
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| Quote: | And I don't like poetry or believe in god, so [ignores]
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You get a little more unsavory with each post, don't you?
What now? Don't tell me you're religious? Please don't fall into the image I have of over-religious Americans....
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Well, now, another little nasty raises its ugly head!
Just how would you classify "over-religious"?
Not quite adhering to your rules for what should be religiously
"proper"?
Seems like we solved that little problem about 400 years ago...
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| Quote: | Kinda like:
The Beatles
Mean Mr. Mustard
by Unknown
Mean Mr. Mustard sleeps in the park
Shaves in the dark
Trying to save paper
If you saw the wages we get over here......
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Geez, and here I thought you guys had free medical care and all
kinds of free social stuff like that to compensate for less
disposable income.
I guess those outlets that keep you from getting shocked come at a
price, huh?
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Peter Hucker
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
Re: Use of Extension Cord |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:29:57 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:20:30 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:14:58 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:28:08 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:15:24 -0000, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:36:11 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com
wrote:
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Well, perhaps you should. Here's one from some of your boys:
You mean a Brit? I don't have any sons.
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I thought you didn't care for precision in verbal discourse...
Clearly you understood what I meant, so what's the bullshit for?
I took a guess. I wasn't sure if that's what you meant. What you used is presumably American slang, not an imprecise word.
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Well, for starters, since I didn't know anything about whether you
had kids or not, you should have known that and ruled it out.
Second, since the lyrics are from an "Animals" song and they're
Brits, ("your boys") I thought you might be able to put two and two
together
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Well I did guess right.
| Quote: | and relate the "Oh Lord, please don't let me be
misunderstood." part to why it's important to be precise when
communicating using the written word. Obviously, I was wrong.
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You underestimated my laziness.
| Quote: | And I don't like poetry or believe in god, so [ignores]
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You get a little more unsavory with each post, don't you?
What now? Don't tell me you're religious? Please don't fall into the image I have of over-religious Americans....
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Well, now, another little nasty raises its ugly head!
Just how would you classify "over-religious"?
Not quite adhering to your rules for what should be religiously
"proper"?
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Religiously proper is an oxymoron.
| Quote: | Seems like we solved that little problem about 400 years ago...
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| Quote: | Kinda like:
The Beatles
Mean Mr. Mustard
by Unknown
Mean Mr. Mustard sleeps in the park
Shaves in the dark
Trying to save paper
If you saw the wages we get over here......
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Geez, and here I thought you guys had free medical care and all
kinds of free social stuff like that to compensate for less
disposable income.
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Yes there is a lot of free stuff. But the taxes to pay for it are horrendous.
| Quote: | I guess those outlets that keep you from getting shocked come at a
price, huh?
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I never said our outlets stop us getting shocked.
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http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com
A baby was born that was so advanced that he could talk. He looked around the delivery room and saw the doctor.
"Are you my doctor?" he asked.
"Yes, I am."
The baby said "Thank you for taking such good care of me during birth."
He looked at his mother and asked, "Are you my mother?"
"Yes, I am," she said.
"Thank you for taking such good care of me before I was born" he said.
He then looked at his father and asked "Are you my father?"
"Yes, I am," his father answered.
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Michael A. Terrell
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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Peter Hucker wrote:
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You've told me enough details to show it is less safe than the UK system in some respects. By the way I discussed it with an electrical engineer, and he told me the US system is terribly unsafe.
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What do you expect? He's brainwashed, too.
| Quote: | Agreed, but more of the Americans are egotistical, and to a greater extent.
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It only looks that way to Euro-wennies with no balls.
| Quote: | What on earth do you do with 48kW???
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Electric heat, central air conditioning, electric water heater,
electric stove. Just because you have a 200 amp 240 VAC service doesn't
mean that you'll use all of it.
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Bob Monsen
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:54:27 -0600, John Fields wrote:
| Quote: | Nothing quite like listening to the Dead in Central Park, free, behind a
hit of blotter.
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Those were simpler times, eh? No haircuts. Sex on tap. We all knew who the
enemy was (Nixon), and who not to trust (everybody over 30).
The only bit left from those days is the no haircuts part, and that is
only because my hair deserted me long ago...
('m currently listening to a recording of Keith Jarrett's Koln concert
from January, 1975... very nice)
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Regards,
Bob Monsen
Intuition is the undoubting conception of a pure and attentive mind, which
arises from the light of reason alone, and is more certain than deduction.
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