LT1246 model problems in LT SWcadiii
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legg
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: LT1246 model problems in LT SWcadiii Reply with quote

I've constructed a circuit model showing an LT1246 current-mode PWM
regulator that thinks it's regulating a DC output, but isn't.

The AC stability is gratifying, but is not believable while
DC characteristics are up the stump.

The whole circuit responds ~ linearly to a varying clamp on
the LT1246 'comp' terminal, showing compliance that includes
the intended point of regulation.

The feedback circuit will sort of adjust the point of
regulation - shunting it gives open loop gain at the primary
current limit, controlled at the 'Isense' pin, as is expected.

The impedances attached to the 'FB' pin are all high enough
to be handled by the error amplifier's output capabilities, and the
feedback pin is a flat line at 2V497 ~ as expected..

I suppose a separate error amplifier added to the model could
get around the problem - but the circuit model's credibility suffers.

There were some early issues with the LT1246 model - duty cycles of
100% being one of them. Is anyone aware of other troubles that could
account for the DC error amplifier's behavior?

Mr Engelhardt at Linear Tech is on sabatical till early January, so
inquiries there are a little difficult.

RL

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Ken Smith
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: LT1246 model problems in LT SWcadiii Reply with quote

In article <ttinn1hs0po17l0mk6g3dc1ld3s547haj6@4ax.com>,
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
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Quote:
100% being one of them. Is anyone aware of other troubles that could
account for the DC error amplifier's behavior?

(1)
The model is no good when the control voltage is below one diode drop.

(2)
A few years back, the model or LTSpice made a reference to the overall
ground instead of the ground pin of the device. I was working around it
and have no idea when they fixed it.

(3)
The problem my be your schematic. Look at is very carefully. Grab some
of the parts with the dragging hand and make sure that the wires follow
them. I've once had a schematic where something looked right but wasn't
hooked up.

You could post the schematic since it is text.


Quote:

Mr Engelhardt at Linear Tech is on sabatical till early January, so
inquiries there are a little difficult.

RL



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legg
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: LT1246 model problems in LT SWcadiii Reply with quote

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:22:13 +0000 (UTC), kensmith@green.rahul.net
(Ken Smith) wrote:

Quote:
In article <ttinn1hs0po17l0mk6g3dc1ld3s547haj6@4ax.com>,
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
[...]
100% being one of them. Is anyone aware of other troubles that could
account for the DC error amplifier's behavior?

(1)
The model is no good when the control voltage is below one diode drop.

(2)
A few years back, the model or LTSpice made a reference to the overall
ground instead of the ground pin of the device. I was working around it
and have no idea when they fixed it.

(3)
The problem my be your schematic. Look at is very carefully. Grab some
of the parts with the dragging hand and make sure that the wires follow
them. I've once had a schematic where something looked right but wasn't
hooked up.

You could post the schematic since it is text.

Thanks for the advice. I'm pretty sure now that it's not the fault of

the specific model, as I've popped it into other topologies, since,
without any trouble. It is intended to function similarly to the 3842
type of current mode controller.

The topology that I was exercising seems to exhibit dynamic reversal,
under fixed frequency PWM control. Over short periods, this can give
the impression of DC regulation that has become decoupled.

RL

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legg
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: LT1246 model problems in LT SWcadiii Reply with quote

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:22:13 +0000 (UTC), kensmith@green.rahul.net
(Ken Smith) wrote:

Quote:
In article <ttinn1hs0po17l0mk6g3dc1ld3s547haj6@4ax.com>,
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
[...]
100% being one of them. Is anyone aware of other troubles that could
account for the DC error amplifier's behavior?

(1)
The model is no good when the control voltage is below one diode drop.

(2)
A few years back, the model or LTSpice made a reference to the overall
ground instead of the ground pin of the device. I was working around it
and have no idea when they fixed it.

(3)
The problem my be your schematic. Look at is very carefully. Grab some
of the parts with the dragging hand and make sure that the wires follow
them. I've once had a schematic where something looked right but wasn't
hooked up.

You could post the schematic since it is text.

It appears that an early asc file had a capacitor typo'd at .01F.
Thanks to M.Engelhardt for pointing that out, on his own clock.
Check and recheck............ just like a breadboard.

RL
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