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Gary H
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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Mxsmanic wrote:
| Quote: | Gary H writes:
Awwww, please don't practice your dime store psychology on me?
I don't recall mentioning you. Hmm.
Inferred.
I know Bill Gates is much much smarter than I am, no question
about it. I didn't say he wasn't. I merely said he was a thief
with accomplices before and after the fact. Why do you have to
make it complicated?
Do you find "dime-store" psychology to be complicated?
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| Quote: | Bill Gates is no more a thief than any other corporate CEO. He
happens to be the founder of a very successful company, and the
founders of successful companies are routinely demonized, typically
without any rational basis for doing so.
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Non sequitur. I wasn't discussing the matter nor comparing the
individual to anyone else. Just making a statement.
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Gary H
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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David Maynard wrote:
| Quote: | Well, opinions *are* allowed
Opinions are like rear ends: everybody's got one. But I didn't say you
couldn't have an 'opinion'. I said it was none of your business.
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Never said it was my business, just stated an opinion.
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and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were
fast-tracked
Sure. Go ahead and tell me how "mom and pop" coerced mega-giant IBM into
contracting Microsoft for Basic and DOS.
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It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire.
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and I'm not bitching
It's precisely what you're doing.
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Did, didn't, did, didn't. There's a stupid argument that could
go on all day.
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I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you.
None of your business.
True statement that. |
Damn, snotty little soul aren't you? |
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David Maynard
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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Gary H wrote:
| Quote: | Mxsmanic wrote:
Many people refuse to believe that anyone could become more successful
than themselves through purely legitimate means because it implies
that these such a person might be smarter than they are, and they
cannot accept this possibility.
Awwww, please don't practice your dime store psychology on me? I know
Bill Gates is much much smarter than I am, no question about it. I
didn't say he wasn't. I merely said he was a thief with accomplices
before and after the fact. Why do you have to make it complicated? :-)
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Because you demonstrate the trait even in the denial of it.
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Mxsmanic
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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Gary H writes:
| Quote: | Willey was lucky (and smart). He grabbed CP/M before the market
conditions were what they are today. had he pulled something
like that in recent times, he'd have been in a courtroom so fast
he woulda been sucked out of his socks.
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No, he would not. Nothing has really changed in that respect. He
didn't really "pull" anything to begin with, and the consequences of
what he did or did not do would not be different today.
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Mxsmanic
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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Gary H writes:
| Quote: | I find it mildly amusing when some people hang out in these NGs
simply to show off their vocabularies and to instigate arguments??
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Are you asking or asserting?
Some people have naturally rich vocabularies. The fact that they use
them doesn't mean that they are showing off, although it might seem
that way to people with more limited vocabularies.
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Mxsmanic
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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Gary H writes:
| Quote: | It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire.
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Those of us who were there are not deceived by revisionist histories.
In those days, it was big bad IBM versus tiny helpless Microsoft, not
the other way around. Microsoft didn't (and couldn't) twist IBM's
arm.
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Gary H
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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JAD wrote:
| Quote: | don't feel left out, maybe some bum will give you a card. Rich G are you
listening?
Your 'opinion spouts as envy. Why do you think its bowing , worshiping when
someone takes the opposite side and defends someone who isn't around to
defend himself? Your opinion is based on 'innuendo and is not thought out
very well. And bashing someone without the facts straight is ....well its
nonsense.
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Ah well it's criticism based on many writings and rulings (I
suppose) by "experts". He's ended up in court in the US
(antitrust, guilty) and in Europe (antitrust, guilty) fined 32
million by South Korea's FTC (Fair Trade Commission, guilty)
Yeah, self made man, always by the book, never stiffed anyone.
Typical US mentality. Money first then trickle down to all the
other mundane stuff kicking and screaming all the way. Gimme a
break.
Willey was lucky (and smart). He grabbed CP/M before the market
conditions were what they are today. had he pulled something
like that in recent times, he'd have been in a courtroom so fast
he woulda been sucked out of his socks. |
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David Maynard
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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Gary H wrote:
| Quote: | David Maynard wrote:
Well, opinions *are* allowed
Opinions are like rear ends: everybody's got one. But I didn't say you
couldn't have an 'opinion'. I said it was none of your business.
Never said it was my business,
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You didn't have to as it's implicit in your 'critique', as if it's any of
your business.
| Quote: | just stated an opinion.
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And I just stated it's none of your business.
| Quote: | and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were
fast-tracked
Sure. Go ahead and tell me how "mom and pop" coerced mega-giant IBM
into contracting Microsoft for Basic and DOS.
It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire.
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You're the one making the claim and the accusation. It's not up to me to do
your supporting research.
| Quote: | and I'm not bitching
It's precisely what you're doing.
Did, didn't, did, didn't. There's a stupid argument that could go on
all day.
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It's self evident.
| Quote: | I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you.
None of your business.
True statement that.
Damn, snotty little soul aren't you?
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I find it mildly amusing when those who spit out accusations (thief, liar,
whatever) then accuse perceived 'defenders' of being 'snotty', or some
other pejorative. |
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JAD
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
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"Gary H" <g.h@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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| Quote: | David Maynard wrote:
Gary H wrote:
David Maynard wrote:
Well, opinions *are* allowed
Opinions are like rear ends: everybody's got one. But I didn't say
you couldn't have an 'opinion'. I said it was none of your business.
Never said it was my business,
You didn't have to as it's implicit in your 'critique', as if it's any
of your business.
just stated an opinion.
And I just stated it's none of your business.
and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were
fast-tracked
Sure. Go ahead and tell me how "mom and pop" coerced mega-giant IBM
into contracting Microsoft for Basic and DOS.
It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire.
You're the one making the claim and the accusation. It's not up to me to
do your supporting research.
and I'm not bitching
It's precisely what you're doing.
Did, didn't, did, didn't. There's a stupid argument that could go on
all day.
It's self evident.
I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you.
None of your business.
True statement that.
Damn, snotty little soul aren't you?
I find it mildly amusing when those who spit out accusations (thief,
liar, whatever) then accuse perceived 'defenders' of being 'snotty', or
some other pejorative.
I find it mildly amusing when some people hang out in these NGs
simply to show off their vocabularies and to instigate arguments??
I find that most folks like the BGs of the world, you know, the
Rockefellers and such...
Their money always seems to become more respectable, the older
it gets.
As for me, just a point of view and that's about as simple as
it gets. If you feel you have to jump to the defense of these
poor helpless folks, then go for it. Shrug.
Defend as much as you wish, go to war for them, bow and pray to
them, so what. It still boils down to opinion and all the
arguing in the world isn't going to change that.
When it comes to folks like them, you would like to be able to
kiss ass, I'd like to be able to kick ass. See, just a
different point of view. Get over it.
So, further response on this one would seem unnecessary on my part.
Have a good day, maybe Bill will send you a Christmas card.
Postage due. :-)
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don't feel left out, maybe some bum will give you a card. Rich G are you
listening?
Your 'opinion spouts as envy. Why do you think its bowing , worshiping when
someone takes the opposite side and defends someone who isn't around to
defend himself? Your opinion is based on 'innuendo and is not thought out
very well. And bashing someone without the facts straight is ....well its
nonsense. |
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Gary H
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject:
Re: The truth about OS/2!!! [Re: Why aren't computer clocks |
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David Maynard wrote:
| Quote: | Gary H wrote:
David Maynard wrote:
Well, opinions *are* allowed
Opinions are like rear ends: everybody's got one. But I didn't say
you couldn't have an 'opinion'. I said it was none of your business.
Never said it was my business,
You didn't have to as it's implicit in your 'critique', as if it's any
of your business.
just stated an opinion.
And I just stated it's none of your business.
and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were
fast-tracked
Sure. Go ahead and tell me how "mom and pop" coerced mega-giant IBM
into contracting Microsoft for Basic and DOS.
It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire.
You're the one making the claim and the accusation. It's not up to me to
do your supporting research.
and I'm not bitching
It's precisely what you're doing.
Did, didn't, did, didn't. There's a stupid argument that could go on
all day.
It's self evident.
I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you.
None of your business.
True statement that.
Damn, snotty little soul aren't you?
I find it mildly amusing when those who spit out accusations (thief,
liar, whatever) then accuse perceived 'defenders' of being 'snotty', or
some other pejorative.
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I find it mildly amusing when some people hang out in these NGs
simply to show off their vocabularies and to instigate arguments??
I find that most folks like the BGs of the world, you know, the
Rockefellers and such...
Their money always seems to become more respectable, the older
it gets.
As for me, just a point of view and that's about as simple as
it gets. If you feel you have to jump to the defense of these
poor helpless folks, then go for it. Shrug.
Defend as much as you wish, go to war for them, bow and pray to
them, so what. It still boils down to opinion and all the
arguing in the world isn't going to change that.
When it comes to folks like them, you would like to be able to
kiss ass, I'd like to be able to kick ass. See, just a
different point of view. Get over it.
So, further response on this one would seem unnecessary on my part.
Have a good day, maybe Bill will send you a Christmas card.
Postage due. :-) |
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JAD
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject:
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"Gary H" <g.h@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:WEYmf.92$El.19427@news20.bellglobal.com...
| Quote: | JAD wrote:
don't feel left out, maybe some bum will give you a card. Rich G are you
listening?
Your 'opinion spouts as envy. Why do you think its bowing , worshiping
when
someone takes the opposite side and defends someone who isn't around to
defend himself? Your opinion is based on 'innuendo and is not thought
out
very well. And bashing someone without the facts straight is ....well
its
nonsense.
Ah well it's criticism based on many writings and rulings (I
suppose) by "experts". He's ended up in court in the US
(antitrust, guilty) and in Europe (antitrust, guilty) fined 32
million by South Korea's FTC (Fair Trade Commission, guilty)
Yeah, self made man, always by the book, never stiffed anyone.
Typical US mentality. Money first then trickle down to all the
other mundane stuff kicking and screaming all the way. Gimme a
break.
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Ahhhh I C now where its coming from...... and here I thought it actually
had something to do with money and Bill Gates........
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Willey was lucky (and smart). He grabbed CP/M before the market
conditions were what they are today. had he pulled something
like that in recent times, he'd have been in a courtroom so fast
he woulda been sucked out of his socks. |
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Gary H
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject:
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Mxsmanic wrote:
| Quote: | Gary H writes:
Willey was lucky (and smart). He grabbed CP/M before the market
conditions were what they are today. had he pulled something
like that in recent times, he'd have been in a courtroom so fast
he woulda been sucked out of his socks.
No, he would not. Nothing has really changed in that respect. He
didn't really "pull" anything to begin with, and the consequences of
what he did or did not do would not be different today.
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:-) As you wish. |
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Gary H
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:41 pm Post subject:
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JAD wrote:
| Quote: | "Gary H" <g.h@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:WEYmf.92$El.19427@news20.bellglobal.com...
JAD wrote:
don't feel left out, maybe some bum will give you a card. Rich G are you
listening?
Your 'opinion spouts as envy. Why do you think its bowing , worshiping
when
someone takes the opposite side and defends someone who isn't around to
defend himself? Your opinion is based on 'innuendo and is not thought
out
very well. And bashing someone without the facts straight is ....well
its
nonsense.
Ah well it's criticism based on many writings and rulings (I
suppose) by "experts". He's ended up in court in the US
(antitrust, guilty) and in Europe (antitrust, guilty) fined 32
million by South Korea's FTC (Fair Trade Commission, guilty)
Yeah, self made man, always by the book, never stiffed anyone.
Typical US mentality. Money first then trickle down to all the
other mundane stuff kicking and screaming all the way. Gimme a
break.
Ahhhh I C now where its coming from...... and here I thought it actually
had something to do with money and Bill Gates........
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If the shoe fits?????
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Willey was lucky (and smart). He grabbed CP/M before the market
conditions were what they are today. had he pulled something
like that in recent times, he'd have been in a courtroom so fast
he woulda been sucked out of his socks.
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Michael A. Terrell
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject:
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Mxsmanic wrote:
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Michael A. Terrell writes:
I never begged. I found odd jobs and paid for my own food. I may have
slept in my truck and taken showers at a relatives house, but I was
never a bum.
Beggars and bums are not synonymous. There are situations and times
in which some people may be temporarily reduced to begging without
this necessarily reflecting upon their habitual industry. It is true
that someone who chooses voluntarily to make a career of begging over
the long term may be somewhat of a bum, particularly in developed
countries where so many other options exist.
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The only people I have seen begging fit Rich's description of
alcoholics wanting booze. I've seen them with "Will work for food signs"
and they got pissed when someone stopped and gave them food instead of
money.
| Quote: | Around here that will get you arrested. The homeless live in the
Ocala national forest and are treated like trash. A lot of them are
veterans we are trying to help find jobs and get back on their feet but
most want nothing to do with anyone outside of their camouflaged camps.
Yours must be a very cruel society.
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Gee, its easy for you to judge others. Its a warm climate and these
people hive migrated here from all over the country. Some have mental
problems, others are thieves. They make no attempt to fit in with people
outside their small groups, and most encounters are when they are
stealing something. How do you expect people to think of them? They
have been offered help, food and clothing along with a place to shower
for free. Their reaction was to start more trouble. Some have been
arrested a number of times.
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JAD
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Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:06 am Post subject:
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Mxsmanic wrote:
Michael A. Terrell writes:
I never begged. I found odd jobs and paid for my own food. I may have
slept in my truck and taken showers at a relatives house, but I was
never a bum.
Beggars and bums are not synonymous. There are situations and times
in which some people may be temporarily reduced to begging without
this necessarily reflecting upon their habitual industry. It is true
that someone who chooses voluntarily to make a career of begging over
the long term may be somewhat of a bum, particularly in developed
countries where so many other options exist.
The only people I have seen begging fit Rich's description of
alcoholics wanting booze. I've seen them with "Will work for food signs"
and they got pissed when someone stopped and gave them food instead of
money.
Around here that will get you arrested. The homeless live in the
Ocala national forest and are treated like trash. A lot of them are
veterans we are trying to help find jobs and get back on their feet
but
most want nothing to do with anyone outside of their camouflaged
camps.
Yours must be a very cruel society.
Gee, its easy for you to judge others. Its a warm climate and these
people hive migrated here from all over the country. Some have mental
problems, others are thieves. They make no attempt to fit in with people
outside their small groups, and most encounters are when they are
stealing something. How do you expect people to think of them? They
have been offered help, food and clothing along with a place to shower
for free. Their reaction was to start more trouble. Some have been
arrested a number of times.
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OH ok judge jury and executioner mike a terrel......... live with them, THEN
talk about what you have learned. How they got there, who put them there,
and why can't the richest nation in the world take some interest in
them.........until then STFU.............
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