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Mxsmanic
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:31 am Post subject:
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Michael A. Terrell writes:
| Quote: | So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of income
or total worth.
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That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his total
lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away $100,000?
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Never Mind
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject:
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:46:23 -0700, do_not_spam_me wrote:
| Quote: | I'm looking for a techical explanation.
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Somewhere in the Far East there is a big factory making shitloads of
crystals. These crystals have a nominal spec, but are subject to
tolerances.
Somewhere in that factory these crystals are measured. Those closest to
the designated frequency are shipped to Seiko, the farthest to Dell.
Watches tend to spend a lot of time strapped to a temperature-regulated
heat source (a human). PCs usually are not.
As mentioned in previous (non-technical) replies, PCs are not often used
as timepieces, so lower tolerance (cheaper) components will be used. |
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Tom MacIntyre
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:31 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:31:45 +0100, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com>
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| Quote: | Michael A. Terrell writes:
So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of income
or total worth.
That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his total
lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away $100,000?
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What about % of income above the level to comfortably sustain an
individual/family? Someone earning $50k a year giving 6% is digging
deeper than someone earning $500k giving 6%, at least potentially.
Tom
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JAD
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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if this had anything to do with Science hardware or electronics it would be
interesting. Suffice it to say that anyone who gives anything without
expecting something in return would be a great thing. However, charity, is
the furthest thing from most peoples minds, that give huge amounts of money
to anyone. Its all bout the business end of things.
"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:31:45 +0100, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com
wrote:
Michael A. Terrell writes:
So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of income
or total worth.
That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his total
lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away $100,000?
What about % of income above the level to comfortably sustain an
individual/family? Someone earning $50k a year giving 6% is digging
deeper than someone earning $500k giving 6%, at least potentially.
Tom |
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Richard the Dreaded Liber
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:31:45 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
| Quote: | Michael A. Terrell writes:
So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of income
or total worth.
That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his total
lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away $100,000?
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How many people _have_ $1,666,666.67 to give away 6% _OF_? (which, BTW,
is probably a serious underestimate of Uncle Billy's "total lifetime
worth".)
If I have ten bucks in my pocket, and I give a street bum a buck,
am I more generous than Bill Gates, since that's 10% of my entire
wealth?
And another thing - there's a serious misunderstanding going around that
says that "size of pile of money" can in any way be related to "worth".
Just ask Nicklaus:
http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~omri/Humor/real-progstory.html
;-P
Cheers!
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JAD
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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if this had anything to do with Science hardware or electronics i
would be
interesting. Suffice it to say that anyone who gives anything without
expecting something in return would be a great thing. However
charity, is
the furthest thing from most peoples minds, that give huge amounts o
money
to anyone. Its all bout the business end of things
"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dtmjp1p7vuo5l07pj7bb9bcbprftqua2m5@4ax.com..
| Quote: | On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:31:45 +0100, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.co
wrote
Michael A. Terrell writes
So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of incom
or total worth
That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his tota
lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away $100,000
What about % of income above the level to comfortably sustain a
individual/family? Someone earning $50k a year giving 6% is diggin
deeper than someone earning $500k giving 6%, at least potentially
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John Doe
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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Tom MacIntyre <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:31:45 +0100, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com
wrote:
Michael A. Terrell writes:
So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of
income or total worth.
That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his
total lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away
$100,000?
What about % of income above the level to comfortably sustain an
individual/family? Someone earning $50k a year giving 6% is
digging deeper than someone earning $500k giving 6%, at least
potentially.
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Without question, someone giving away 6% of personal wealth that
they could not spend in 10 lifetimes is meaningless.
If I may inject some considerations. Money itself doesn't matter
except for a feeling of security. Richness doesn't necessarily mean
greedy. Possessions are a good indicator IMO. Also, time spent doing
something matters. Spending 6% of your time helping other people is
meaningful. Whether giving 6% of your income is charitable just
depends.
If I had as much money, I might never stop shopping and
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Michael A. Terrell
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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JAD wrote:
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if this had anything to do with Science hardware or electronics it would be
interesting. Suffice it to say that anyone who gives anything without
expecting something in return would be a great thing. However, charity, is
the furthest thing from most peoples minds, that give huge amounts of money
to anyone. Its all bout the business end of things.
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You are right. They get tax breaks for the big donations, but
someone who gives money or other gifts that can barely scrape by is
giving a lot more. When was the last time a billionaire given away every
cent they owned?
Its east to give away $100,000 when its just pocket change. I have
given away my last $5 to a friend who needed money to eat when I had no
job, and not enough food to feed myself the next day.
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Michael A. Terrell
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Mxsmanic
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
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John Doe writes:
| Quote: | Without question, someone giving away 6% of personal wealth that
they could not spend in 10 lifetimes is meaningless.
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How much money does he have to give away before it meets your personal
definition of meaningful?
| Quote: | Spending 6% of your time helping other people is
meaningful. Whether giving 6% of your income is charitable just
depends.
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On whether you are hated as much as Bill Gates or not, apparently.
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Mxsmanic
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
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Michael A. Terrell writes:
| Quote: | Its east to give away $100,000 when its just pocket change. I have
given away my last $5 to a friend who needed money to eat when I had no
job, and not enough food to feed myself the next day.
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How noble of you. I'm sure nobody else ever does that.
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Mxsmanic
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
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Tom MacIntyre writes:
| Quote: | What about % of income above the level to comfortably sustain an
individual/family? Someone earning $50k a year giving 6% is digging
deeper than someone earning $500k giving 6%, at least potentially.
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If you play with figures long enough, you can make Bill Gates look
stingy no matter how much money he gives away. But he is still giving
away billions of dollars, and he only has $50 billion to play with.
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Mxsmanic
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian writes:
| Quote: | If I have ten bucks in my pocket, and I give a street bum a buck,
am I more generous than Bill Gates, since that's 10% of my entire
wealth?
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It depends on many things.
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Gordon reeder
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"Never Mind" <null@hotmail.com> wrote in
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| Quote: | On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:46:23 -0700, do_not_spam_me wrote:
I'm looking for a techical explanation.
Somewhere in the Far East there is a big factory making shitloads of
crystals. These crystals have a nominal spec, but are subject to
tolerances.
Somewhere in that factory these crystals are measured. Those closest to
the designated frequency are shipped to Seiko, the farthest to Dell.
Watches tend to spend a lot of time strapped to a temperature-regulated
heat source (a human). PCs usually are not.
As mentioned in previous (non-technical) replies, PCs are not often
used
as timepieces, so lower tolerance (cheaper) components will be used.
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I'll add that frequency of opperation will depend on supply
voltage. So the difference between running on battery 2.5V
and running on AC 5.0 to 3.3V (depending on chipset) will cause
the clock to gain or loose time.
Parasitic capacitance also affects opperational frequency.
These are tightly controled in a watch, but are of little
concern in a PC.
Solution: Get a program called Dimension 4. It runs on startup,
syncs your PC clock to an internet time server, then exits. It
can work in other modes too. |
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Michael A. Terrell
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:
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Mxsmanic wrote:
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Michael A. Terrell writes:
Its easy to give away $100,000 when its just pocket change. I have
given away my last $5 to a friend who needed money to eat when I had no
job, and not enough food to feed myself the next day.
How noble of you. I'm sure nobody else ever does that.
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I don't claim to be "noble", and I know that others have done it, but
not enough have done it. I just did what I thought was right, at that
time. I've been homeless twice in my life and I know what its like to go
days at a time without food.
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Mxsmanic
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject:
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Gordon reeder writes:
| Quote: | Solution: Get a program called Dimension 4. It runs on startup,
syncs your PC clock to an internet time server, then exits. It
can work in other modes too.
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Note that XP already has provisions for automatic synchronization over
the Net.
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