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bob
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:30 am Post subject:
Component values in relativity theory |
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Has anyone encountered an analysis of the values of electronic
components such as inductors, capacitors, etc at fractional light speed,
where, presumably, mass and size change with velocity?
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Tim Shoppa
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:36 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Has anyone encountered an analysis of the values
of electronic components such as inductors, capacitors,
etc at fractional light speed, where, presumably,
mass and size change with velocity?
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If you're traveling along with the component and make a measurement,
then you'll see exactly the same component value as you do when you and
the component are at rest.
When I figure out how to attach test leads to a resistor moving at
0.99c, then maybe the value in other frames will become of interest :-). |
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Walter Harley
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject:
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"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
news:1130183044.966938.309620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Has anyone encountered an analysis of the values
of electronic components such as inductors, capacitors,
etc at fractional light speed, where, presumably,
mass and size change with velocity?
If you're traveling along with the component and make a measurement,
then you'll see exactly the same component value as you do when you and
the component are at rest.
When I figure out how to attach test leads to a resistor moving at
0.99c, then maybe the value in other frames will become of interest :-).
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Hmm, quite a challenge. You'd have to coil up a few billion km of test lead
in advance, and as it uncoiled at the speed of light, its inductance would
be changing... it would be heck for AC current measurements. I suppose
unspooling it that fast might make for a bit of triboelectric interference,
too.
That helps explain why they use such darn strong springs in the little
miniclips, though. Never could figure that out.
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:
Re: Component values in relativity theory |
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"bob" <bobh@695online.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Has anyone encountered an analysis of the values of electronic
components such as inductors, capacitors, etc at fractional light
speed,
where, presumably, mass and size change with velocity?
w4mb
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Duh! Relative to _what_? Think about it. |
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:
Re: Component values in relativity theory |
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"Walter Harley" <walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
news:1130183044.966938.309620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Has anyone encountered an analysis of the values
of electronic components such as inductors, capacitors,
etc at fractional light speed, where, presumably,
mass and size change with velocity?
If you're traveling along with the component and make a measurement,
then you'll see exactly the same component value as you do when you
and
the component are at rest.
When I figure out how to attach test leads to a resistor moving at
0.99c, then maybe the value in other frames will become of interest
:-).
Hmm, quite a challenge. You'd have to coil up a few billion km of
test lead
in advance, and as it uncoiled at the speed of light, its inductance
would
be changing... it would be heck for AC current measurements. I
suppose
unspooling it that fast might make for a bit of triboelectric
interference,
too.
That helps explain why they use such darn strong springs in the little
miniclips, though. Never could figure that out.
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Not to mention that the red shift would turn the red test lead into a
black one. The black test lead? Dunmo, maybe IR? :-P |
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Jim Adney
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:49 am Post subject:
Re: Component values in relativity theory |
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:30:23 GMT bob <bobh@695online.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Has anyone encountered an analysis of the values of electronic
components such as inductors, capacitors, etc at fractional light speed,
where, presumably, mass and size change with velocity?
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HP did the experiment of taking one of their cesium clocks around the
world on a plane while its twin stayed home. When reunited, the
traveling clock was behind by the amount predicted under general
relativity.
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