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The Real Andy
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:38 pm Post subject:
Nicotine patches are a waste of money |
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I still want a ciggie. Next i will be giving up the coffee and booze.
I might as well kill myself now, should prove to be slightly more
exciting.
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Paul Burke
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:
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Tim Wescott wrote:
| Quote: | I smoked for about two years, lightly, in college
and would start back up in a minute but for the fact I'd be sleeping in
the living room (my wife is allergic).
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I smoked lightly for about 5 years up to my early 20s. I got off it
through aversion therapy inadvertently provided by a friend with whom I
toured Ireland. Irish ciggies were very strong, untipped, and didn't
have a tar content- it was more like asphalte. Two weeks of him, a chain
smoker, forcing the pace up to 20-odd a day for me, followed by a carton
of duty- free untipped Gauloises on the lower deck of the night ferry
back... I haven't smoked since, and that's nearly 30 years now!
Paul Burke |
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Anthony Fremont
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject:
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Of course they are. Why trade one nicotine infusion system for another?
Isn't the whole point to actually stop using nicotine? If you really,
really want to quit, then quit. That's all there is to it, just say no.
;-) Patches, gum and hypnosis will not suffice.
And of course you still want a cigarette, you will likely want them for
many years to come. They have to be THE most addicting thing on the
planet. Fortunately, it gets easier to pass them by over time,
especially at nearly $4.00/pack. I quit in Feb after >25 years of
smoking. I haven't had one since, but I really have cravings at times.
Now everything tastes kinda salty. I wonder, does smoking really affect
your blood pressure or is it the increase in salt intake (due to the
smoking dulling the tastebuds). IOW, I used to use allot of salt
(apparently because I smoked), now I don't use as much on my food.
OTOH, my allergies seem to be giving me more trouble now. Could it be
that smoking has tangible bennefits other than reducing your chances of
contracting Alzheimer's or Parkinson's by 50%? Rich should appreciate
that little factoid. ;-)
The real key to stopping is to positively want to quit. Until you do,
you will not succeed regardless of the gimmicks you try. Now if I could
just shake this gasoline addiction........
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Tim Wescott
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject:
Re: Nicotine patches are a waste of money |
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Anthony Fremont wrote:
| Quote: | Of course they are. Why trade one nicotine infusion system for another?
Isn't the whole point to actually stop using nicotine? If you really,
really want to quit, then quit. That's all there is to it, just say no.
;-) Patches, gum and hypnosis will not suffice.
And of course you still want a cigarette, you will likely want them for
many years to come. They have to be THE most addicting thing on the
planet. Fortunately, it gets easier to pass them by over time,
especially at nearly $4.00/pack. I quit in Feb after >25 years of
smoking. I haven't had one since, but I really have cravings at times.
Now everything tastes kinda salty. I wonder, does smoking really affect
your blood pressure or is it the increase in salt intake (due to the
smoking dulling the tastebuds). IOW, I used to use allot of salt
(apparently because I smoked), now I don't use as much on my food.
OTOH, my allergies seem to be giving me more trouble now. Could it be
that smoking has tangible bennefits other than reducing your chances of
contracting Alzheimer's or Parkinson's by 50%? Rich should appreciate
that little factoid. ;-)
The real key to stopping is to positively want to quit. Until you do,
you will not succeed regardless of the gimmicks you try. Now if I could
just shake this gasoline addiction........
My dad once mentioned that ever after 20 years of not smoking he still |
wanted to light up. I smoked for about two years, lightly, in college
and would start back up in a minute but for the fact I'd be sleeping in
the living room (my wife is allergic).
So expect the cravings to get down to a baseline level and never dip below.
It always amuses me when senators from the tobacco states rave about
marijuana being a "gateway drug". Everyone _I_ knew who smoked dope at
16 smoked cigarettes at 13 (we were slow learners). They learned to
sneak smokes at 13, they learned the places to smoke without being
caught at 13, they met the folks who'd be selling them dope in those
places -- so which is the gateway drug?
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Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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CF
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Nicotine patches are a waste of money |
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I also quit in February - my count is over 13000 cigs I would have smoked
since then but have not - but now I'm seriously addicted to Little Debbie
Nutty Bars!!! Gained 30 lbs during Feb-March!!!
"Anthony Fremont" <spam@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:CZO0f.16130$zw5.7349@tornado.texas.rr.com...
Of course they are. Why trade one nicotine infusion system for another?
Isn't the whole point to actually stop using nicotine? If you really,
really want to quit, then quit. That's all there is to it, just say no.
;-) Patches, gum and hypnosis will not suffice.
And of course you still want a cigarette, you will likely want them for
many years to come. They have to be THE most addicting thing on the
planet. Fortunately, it gets easier to pass them by over time,
especially at nearly $4.00/pack. I quit in Feb after >25 years of
smoking. I haven't had one since, but I really have cravings at times.
Now everything tastes kinda salty. I wonder, does smoking really affect
your blood pressure or is it the increase in salt intake (due to the
smoking dulling the tastebuds). IOW, I used to use allot of salt
(apparently because I smoked), now I don't use as much on my food.
OTOH, my allergies seem to be giving me more trouble now. Could it be
that smoking has tangible bennefits other than reducing your chances of
contracting Alzheimer's or Parkinson's by 50%? Rich should appreciate
that little factoid. ;-)
The real key to stopping is to positively want to quit. Until you do,
you will not succeed regardless of the gimmicks you try. Now if I could
just shake this gasoline addiction........ |
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Anthony Fremont
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject:
Re: Nicotine patches are a waste of money |
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"CF" wrote
| Quote: | I also quit in February - my count is over 13000 cigs I would have
smoked
since then but have not - but now I'm seriously addicted to Little
Debbie
Nutty Bars!!! Gained 30 lbs during Feb-March!!!
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You must have smoked about 2.5 packs per day then. It was possibly
easier for me to quit since I "only" smoked about a pack a day. I
chewed allot of gum to help keep me from eating every thing I saw.
Still, I've gained around 10 lbs. |
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Jim Thompson
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject:
Re: Nicotine patches are a waste of money |
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:07:21 GMT, "Anthony Fremont"
<spam@anywhere.com> wrote:
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"CF" wrote
I also quit in February - my count is over 13000 cigs I would have
smoked
since then but have not - but now I'm seriously addicted to Little
Debbie
Nutty Bars!!! Gained 30 lbs during Feb-March!!!
You must have smoked about 2.5 packs per day then. It was possibly
easier for me to quit since I "only" smoked about a pack a day. I
chewed allot of gum to help keep me from eating every thing I saw.
Still, I've gained around 10 lbs.
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I quit smoking (pipe) around 12-13 years ago, after 34 years of
smoking... cold turkey, no patches, no nothing. But I still get an
occasional urge. I didn't gain any weight... I was already "rotund"
;-)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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Jim Thompson
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Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:36 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:19:51 GMT, qrk <SpamTrap@spam.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:27:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:07:21 GMT, "Anthony Fremont"
spam@anywhere.com> wrote:
"CF" wrote
I also quit in February - my count is over 13000 cigs I would have
smoked
since then but have not - but now I'm seriously addicted to Little
Debbie
Nutty Bars!!! Gained 30 lbs during Feb-March!!!
You must have smoked about 2.5 packs per day then. It was possibly
easier for me to quit since I "only" smoked about a pack a day. I
chewed allot of gum to help keep me from eating every thing I saw.
Still, I've gained around 10 lbs.
I quit smoking (pipe) around 12-13 years ago, after 34 years of
smoking... cold turkey, no patches, no nothing. But I still get an
occasional urge. I didn't gain any weight... I was already "rotund"
;-)
...Jim Thompson
What happened to your walk around the neighborhood excercise program?
Surely that 46 deg C summer weather would have fried a few pounds off.
---
Mark
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The onslaught of PPS (post polio syndrome) has slowed me down a bit,
though its effects are quite variable... at the moment I'm not in too
much pain.
...Jim Thompson
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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qrk
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Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:36 am Post subject:
Re: Nicotine patches are a waste of money |
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:27:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:07:21 GMT, "Anthony Fremont"
spam@anywhere.com> wrote:
"CF" wrote
I also quit in February - my count is over 13000 cigs I would have
smoked
since then but have not - but now I'm seriously addicted to Little
Debbie
Nutty Bars!!! Gained 30 lbs during Feb-March!!!
You must have smoked about 2.5 packs per day then. It was possibly
easier for me to quit since I "only" smoked about a pack a day. I
chewed allot of gum to help keep me from eating every thing I saw.
Still, I've gained around 10 lbs.
I quit smoking (pipe) around 12-13 years ago, after 34 years of
smoking... cold turkey, no patches, no nothing. But I still get an
occasional urge. I didn't gain any weight... I was already "rotund"
;-)
...Jim Thompson
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What happened to your walk around the neighborhood excercise program?
Surely that 46 deg C summer weather would have fried a few pounds off.
---
Mark |
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Fred Bloggs
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Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:55 am Post subject:
Re: Nicotine patches are a waste of money |
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Anthony Fremont wrote:
| Quote: | "CF" wrote
I also quit in February - my count is over 13000 cigs I would have
smoked
since then but have not - but now I'm seriously addicted to Little
Debbie
Nutty Bars!!! Gained 30 lbs during Feb-March!!!
You must have smoked about 2.5 packs per day then. It was possibly
easier for me to quit since I "only" smoked about a pack a day. I
chewed allot of gum to help keep me from eating every thing I saw.
Still, I've gained around 10 lbs.
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I enrolled in an American Lung Association program for quitting, there
was one old lady in the program, maybe early 60's, who only smoked three
cigarettes per day, one after each meal, and for the life of her she
could not give up her three cigarettes no matter what. |
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Jim Thompson
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Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:00 am Post subject:
Re: Nicotine patches are a waste of money |
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On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 01:55:33 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
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I enrolled in an American Lung Association program for quitting, there
was one old lady in the program, maybe early 60's, who only smoked three
cigarettes per day, one after each meal, and for the life of her she
could not give up her three cigarettes no matter what.
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You really know how to make a fellow feel good don't you, Fred,
"...one OLD lady in the program, maybe early 60's..." ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:22 am Post subject:
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Yeah. When I roll them up, I can't seem to keep them lit.
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Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com
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SHIFT TO THE LEFT! SHIFT TO THE RIGHT!
POP UP, PUSH DOWN, BYTE, BYTE, BYTE! |
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Richard Henry
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Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:
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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:4344988C.790247F0@Hovnanian.com...
| Quote: | Yeah. When I roll them up, I can't seem to keep them lit.
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You're not supposed to smoke them. You're supposed to chew them. |
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xray
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Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 08:21:20 -0700, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | My dad once mentioned that ever after 20 years of not smoking he still
wanted to light up. I smoked for about two years, lightly, in college
and would start back up in a minute but for the fact I'd be sleeping in
the living room (my wife is allergic).
So expect the cravings to get down to a baseline level and never dip below.
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Maybe. I think it depends a lot on the person. I quit after about 15-20
yrs of smoking in the early 80's. For a few years I had minor cravings
but haven't had the slightest desire to smoke in the last 10-15 years.
I agree with Anthony's idea that you can't really quit until you are
ready. When I finally quit in the early 80's it was after previous
quiting 4 or more times. I never had a problem stopping and one time I
stayed off for over a year. The last time I quit, I realized that
quitting means never doing it again, and that made it possible to stay
quitted. |
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The Real Andy
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Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:36 am Post subject:
Re: Nicotine patches are a waste of money |
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:27:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:07:21 GMT, "Anthony Fremont"
spam@anywhere.com> wrote:
"CF" wrote
I also quit in February - my count is over 13000 cigs I would have
smoked
since then but have not - but now I'm seriously addicted to Little
Debbie
Nutty Bars!!! Gained 30 lbs during Feb-March!!!
You must have smoked about 2.5 packs per day then. It was possibly
easier for me to quit since I "only" smoked about a pack a day. I
chewed allot of gum to help keep me from eating every thing I saw.
Still, I've gained around 10 lbs.
I quit smoking (pipe) around 12-13 years ago, after 34 years of
smoking... cold turkey, no patches, no nothing. But I still get an
occasional urge. I didn't gain any weight... I was already "rotund"
;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Funny Jim, I always imagined you as a pipe smoker for some reason.
Guess my imagination was close (if not 12-13 years out of date :) ). |
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