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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 5V regulator for batteries cheap efficient? Reply with quote

"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message
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In article <n4-dnSxDCb3rW4zfRVn-qA@centurytel.net>,
Brian <brian@w3gate.com> wrote:

[.. +/- 9V batteries ..]

Then I would lose the regulator and run straight from the batteries.

At low currents, straight off the battery makes sense. At higher current,
a switcher would greatly increase the battery life.

In a battery circuit ground usually is false, no?

Yes effectively


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I assume yoy mean boosting the voltage.

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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 5V regulator for batteries cheap efficient? Reply with quote

In article <TZydnZyl5qab6InfRVn-pg@centurytel.net>,
Brian <brian@w3gate.com> wrote:
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"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message
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In article <8JmdnaefCoMeu47fRVn-sw@centurytel.net>,
Brian <brian@w3gate.com> wrote:

[.. +/- 9V batteries ..]

At low currents, straight off the battery makes sense. At higher
current,
a switcher would greatly increase the battery life.

[...]
Would the added efficiency come from the devices drawing less current at 5V
than they do at 9V?

No, is because:

P= I * V


P9 = 0.1A * 9V = 0.9W

P5 = 0.1A * 5V = 0.5W


0.5/0.9 = 0.5555

So if the switcher is more than 56% efficient, the switcher starts saving
you power. If the switcher is 90% the product should run 62% longer with
the switcher.

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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 5V regulator for batteries cheap efficient? Reply with quote

"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
In article <8JmdnaefCoMeu47fRVn-sw@centurytel.net>,
Brian <brian@w3gate.com> wrote:

[.. +/- 9V batteries ..]

Then I would lose the regulator and run straight from the batteries.

At low currents, straight off the battery makes sense. At higher
current,
a switcher would greatly increase the battery life.

[...]
I assume yoy mean boosting the voltage.

No, with a 9V battery making 5V with a bucker will extend the battery life
quite a bit when the current requirments are enough that the overhead to
run the chip is not important in the total system power.

Unfortunately, there are no large P-MODFETs that can be certain to be
biased to a low on resistance by 5V. Parts like Supertex's TP0604 would
be a good choice for the pass element of a bucker at modest currents.

You can also "abuse" a booster swither chip to make a minus side bucker.
Since the OP is making +/-5V from a pair of 9V batteries, you could do
this twice and wire the resulting 5V circuits in series. The 9V batteries
would not have any common connection.



Would the added efficiency come from the devices drawing less current at 5V
than they do at 9V?

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