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John Fields
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:12 am Post subject:
Re: My PC speakers are too soft |
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:50:44 -0700, Kitchen Man <nannerbac@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:46:43 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:34:23 -0700, Kitchen Man <nannerbac@yahoo.com
wrote:
Hmm. What's a "standard" PC?
simple : at current time an ATX mobo,
and even most sound cards haven't got a line out
It was a rhetorical question. There was no need to embarrass yourself
further by answering. As a matter of fact, the "speaker out" is the
terminal that is most often missing from the simpler sound
configurations, as most speakers built for PC are powered.
No matter. Since you know, without asking, all about the configuration
of the man's computer, go ahead and use your telekinesis powers to fix
it. Let us know how that works out.
From your first post here, when you weren't challenged when you
erroneously claimed that a gold fourth band represented a tolerance of
5%, through your rant that as a fed grunt you're really pretty
impotent, to this last one about that rhetorical question dodge, it
seems that with every post you've written so far you've been intent on
gradually turning yourself into an authoritarian dick. Is there a
reason for that?
Wow, you have some kind of grudge going or something?
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Naa... It just irks me when some mean-spirited little prick like you
starts beating people up unnecessarily.
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| Quote: | I'll take a
minute and answer some of your objections. It would have been nice for
you to identify message ID's, but I know that strained emotions
sometimes interfere with rational thought.
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I don't see where rational thought and supplying you with message IDs
have anything to do with each other. After all, it's not incumbent on
me to walk you over to where you took a dump and point it out to you.
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First, in message gad2v0t78tu0c7qfcam32me2hd1n908423@4ax.com I said:
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What does the gold mean?
The tolerance. I think gold is 1%.
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"I think gold is 1%." That's not a claim, that's a guess, a dim
recollection if you like. If it bothered you so much, you could have
corrected me then.
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Truth be told, I didn't notice it back then because I didn't read it
back then. I only noticed it when I read some nasty crack you made and
then went back and read the rest of your posts to find out what you
were about.
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| Quote: | I guess I should take this opportunity to correct
you, in that I did not "claim that it was 5%," but rather guessed that
it was 1%. Forgive me if I do not make my correction in the same
childish and scolding manner as yours.
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Forgive you? Fuck you, you snotty ass. To someone reading your post
with no clue as to what the color codes mean, your guess comes across
as a statement from someone more knowledgeable than they are, claiming
that such-and-such is true. In fact, it wasn't, and it would have
taken only a few minutes to find a URL, through Google, which you
could have referred the poster to for a definitive, objective answer.
Furthermore, guesses have no business on a technical forum when
factual information is what's asked for.
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| Quote: | Your second objection apparently deals with this message:
6qfnv01nrcr2co0i924ffh54mse30lto09@4ax.com
What is your point about impotency? I don't follow your logic, would
you care to explain where you got that idea? Attempting to read my own
post objectively (a tough task but I tried), I see frustration with
bureaucracy. What position of great power do you hold?
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I can use MS Word, or not, as I see fit, my choice of browsers and,
indeed, operating systems is up to me, and I can pretty much run my
day at work the way _I_ want to, not the way I'm _told_ to, like you
are.
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| Quote: | What allows you to read that frustration as impotence,
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It's really quite simple. The frustration comes about because of your
inability to do anything about changing what you don't like into what
you would like. That inability comes about because of lack of power,
and that lack of power is impotence.
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| Quote: | and why does it disturb you so?
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It doesn't. After all, it's _your_ frustrating day at work, not mine,
eh?
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| Quote: | Finally, what do you mean by a "rhetorical question dodge?"
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By claiming that something is a rhetorical question, the
responsibility for the interpretation of the "real" meaning behind the
question falls on the receiver, thereby allowing the generator of the
question to dodge having to explain the question.
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| Quote: | I posted a couple of suggestions, and I got flamed. Ok, fine.
I flamed back, I suppose too subtly for some of the crew.
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Why blame it on the crew? You haven't yet proven yourself to be some
great bard whose every line should be scrutinized for subtlety. Far
from it, with your admission that you didn't understand how
frustration indicates impotence, you've demonstrated that even though
your technical command of the language may be adequate, the finer
points of the emotional aspects of wielding it are beyond you.
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| Quote: | You see, I believe there is no
such thing as a standard PC. I have about eight different types of
motherboards in my den, five working (the others too old to mess with),
and all five are different in many respects, from type of memory to type
of processor to bus board configurations, etc. Perhaps you'd care to
let me know how many PCI slots a standard PC has? Is the video AGP, PCI
Express, or just PCI? Does it have SATA or not? What brand BIOS does a
standard PC have? C'mon John, my question was dripping with sarcasm.
"What is a standard PC?" Do you truly not see the irony?
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Your statement was:
"Hmm. What's a "standard" PC?"
Which, due to its phrasing and punctuation and its use in the context
of the post preceding it seemed to me to neither drip sarcasm nor to
be ironic in any way.
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I have neither the desire nor the intention of going over every post
of yours, again, with the aim being to point out every offensive
statement you made.
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| Quote: | Do you notice in that last message where I tell
the poster I am replying to "...that sounds like a great suggestion...?"
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Yeah, you're a fuckin' saint...
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| Quote: | John, what's your beef? Are you the newsgroup doorman, and did I forget
to bring my invitation?
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You forgot to check your guns at the door on your way in.
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John Fields
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Kitchen Man
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject:
Re: My PC speakers are too soft |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:12:22 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:50:44 -0700, Kitchen Man <nannerbac@yahoo.com
wrote:
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Naa... It just irks me when some mean-spirited little prick like you
starts beating people up unnecessarily.
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I don't see where rational thought and supplying you with message IDs
have anything to do with each other. After all, it's not incumbent on
me to walk you over to where you took a dump and point it out to you.
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Truth be told, I didn't notice it back then because I didn't read it
back then. I only noticed it when I read some nasty crack you made and
then went back and read the rest of your posts to find out what you
were about.
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Forgive you? Fuck you, you snotty ass. To someone reading your post
with no clue as to what the color codes mean, your guess comes across
as a statement from someone more knowledgeable than they are, claiming
that such-and-such is true. In fact, it wasn't, and it would have
taken only a few minutes to find a URL, through Google, which you
could have referred the poster to for a definitive, objective answer.
Furthermore, guesses have no business on a technical forum when
factual information is what's asked for.
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I can use MS Word, or not, as I see fit, my choice of browsers and,
indeed, operating systems is up to me, and I can pretty much run my
day at work the way _I_ want to, not the way I'm _told_ to, like you
are.
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It's really quite simple. The frustration comes about because of your
inability to do anything about changing what you don't like into what
you would like. That inability comes about because of lack of power,
and that lack of power is impotence.
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It doesn't. After all, it's _your_ frustrating day at work, not mine,
eh?
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By claiming that something is a rhetorical question, the
responsibility for the interpretation of the "real" meaning behind the
question falls on the receiver, thereby allowing the generator of the
question to dodge having to explain the question.
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Why blame it on the crew? You haven't yet proven yourself to be some
great bard whose every line should be scrutinized for subtlety. Far
from it, with your admission that you didn't understand how
frustration indicates impotence, you've demonstrated that even though
your technical command of the language may be adequate, the finer
points of the emotional aspects of wielding it are beyond you.
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Your statement was:
"Hmm. What's a "standard" PC?"
Which, due to its phrasing and punctuation and its use in the context
of the post preceding it seemed to me to neither drip sarcasm nor to
be ironic in any way.
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You didn't note the rather obvious quotation marks then. It's pretty
obvious by the rest of your post that, even though I took a lot of time
and patiently responded to your insulting first post, that you only care
to respond to your very shallow first impression of me with repeated
insults based on nothing more than some obsessed inner hatred of people
who dare to express their opinions.
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I have neither the desire nor the intention of going over every post
of yours, again, with the aim being to point out every offensive
statement you made.
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If you have no intention of going over every post of mine, then why did
you do it in the first place? If you're going to obsess, then obsess
with gusto!
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Yeah, you're a fuckin' saint...
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You forgot to check your guns at the door on your way in.
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One of us did. I gave it a chance, I responded to your insults with
rationality. You responded with more and increasingly bitter insults,
and no substance. It's pretty obvious which one of us is "mean
spirited."
I'll continue to post as I wish here. You may continue to obsess, or
you may ignore. I really don't care one way or the other, people like
you aren't worth getting upset about. Life's too short for such
juvenile indulgences.
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Al Brennan |
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Kitchen Man
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject:
Re: My PC speakers are too soft |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:35:13 GMT, "peterken" <peter273@hotmail.com>
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| Quote: | Al, FYI :
- *anyone* being really involved in electronics (be it PC or otherwise)
*knows* the meaning of the coloured bands on components, so 'guessing'
is beside all professionalism as far as I see it...
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This is a discussion forum. The question posed asked what the band
meant. I responded, "Tolerance." That's a correct answer. I then
posited a guess as to what tolerance it is. There's no shame in making
a mistake, especially when it is admitted up front that it's a guess.
| Quote: | - the point was SOUND CARD I/O, and not mobo's or whatever else, so I
don't see the point of getting those in to make your point since *most*
users only see what's outside a PC
- and since *most* of us are no guitarists, *most* of us (+/- 95% ?) have
"standard" sound card connections thus having *NO* line out
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You're repeating a mistake. The bottom-dollar on-board sound will have
a line-out, not a speaker-out, as myself and others have stated. Now,
take a look at what you are saying here, and read your admonition in
your first paragraph about my misguided guess.
| Quote: | (ok, non standard things do exist I must admit, I even
*designed (=HW) AND programmed (=SW)* some of those as well in as out
of PC environment, but are those the point in
this 'generic' discussion ??)
- and for the definition of "line out", see my previous mailing
at news:c8nPd.9829$yx5.645223@phobos.telenet-ops.be so there's no
mixup in "line out" and "speaker out" to 'sarcasm' on ;-))
- and for the remark /quote/ "As a matter of fact, the "speaker out"
is the terminal that is most often missing from the simpler sound
configurations, as most speakers built for PC are powered" /end quote/:
*every* (even the simplest) sound card has a "speaker out" terminal,
it's where one connects the speakers. It's a normalized 'regulated
amplified output' capable of driving real low-impedance speakers.
Reading the definition of 'line out' makes clear they are not
interchangable and thus a "standard PC" has *NO* "line out".
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But - "line out" is an indication that the signal requires
amplification. It does ill service to start throwing around terms too
loosely, redefining them at will. Again, read your first paragraph. If
you preach it, you should live it. Myself, I'm willing to cut breaks in
the hopes that the favor will be returned. We all make mistakes.
And oh by the way, thanks for not turning this into an insult fest.
FWIW, I suppose I was a little curt in previous statements, so I
apologize for that, and appreciate that we could communicate as adults.
--
Al Brennan
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Ray
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject:
Re: My PC speakers are too soft |
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Hey Kim,
This happened to me once and I was trying everything to fix it and it was
operator error. Did you double click the speaker icon and turn up wave, SW
synth and anything else you might see? My problem was the CD audio turned
way down and I was using a good set of desk speakers with it's volume
turned up.
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:12 am Post subject:
Re: My PC speakers are too soft |
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kimshapiro100@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | My PC speakers are too soft
We have a new XP PC. Lots of RAM, HD and 3 GHZ Intel CPU.
But we can barely hear the sound from the speakers.
We have increased the volume to FULL.
The same speakers on our OLD PC is loud.
Can anyone pls help us out ?
Thanks
Kim
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In addition to all the good suggestions everyone pointed out, you might
also try the Volume Up/Volume Down keys on your keyboard - on my home
computer, they are above the numeric keypad on the right, next to the
Sleep button.
That is, if your computer has these buttons above the numeric keypad.
Mike
www.darrettenterprises.com |
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Rich Grise
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:58 am Post subject:
Re: My PC speakers are too soft |
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| Quote: | kimshapiro100@yahoo.com wrote:
My PC speakers are too soft
We have a new XP PC. Lots of RAM, HD and 3 GHZ Intel CPU.
But we can barely hear the sound from the speakers.
We have increased the volume to FULL.
The same speakers on our OLD PC is loud.
Can anyone pls help us out ?
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How old is the old PC? They used to have audio amps, so you could
run plain speakers. The new ones don't - they only have a headphone
out, which is about like a line out, and so you need amplified speakers.
Good Luck!
Rich |
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Radio Man
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:53 am Post subject:
Re: My PC speakers are too soft |
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Purchase a ($10-15) 10 watt or more stereo amplifier at a flea
mkt or a hamfest. I did the above & it works great.
<mike-nospam@darrettenterprises.com> wrote in message
news:1110309166.421576.20760@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
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kimshapiro100@yahoo.com wrote:
My PC speakers are too soft
We have a new XP PC. Lots of RAM, HD and 3 GHZ Intel CPU.
But we can barely hear the sound from the speakers.
We have increased the volume to FULL.
The same speakers on our OLD PC is loud.
Can anyone pls help us out ?
Thanks
Kim
In addition to all the good suggestions everyone pointed out, you might
also try the Volume Up/Volume Down keys on your keyboard - on my home
computer, they are above the numeric keypad on the right, next to the
Sleep button.
That is, if your computer has these buttons above the numeric keypad.
Mike
www.darrettenterprises.com
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