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Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:22 am Post subject:
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Beauty is only skin-deep, but true boorishness comes from the heart -
or as here - from the arsehole.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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John Larkin
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Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:11 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:15:37 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:15:53 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 15:19:26 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Is your comment about the correlation between average number of
children and political opinion another one of these
folk-misconceptions, or can you point to real evidence?
How about the fact that George W. Bush is President? He didn't win new
states so much as the states he won have more electoral votes than in
past elections because their population has increased more.
My personal experience is the same. Liberals are concentrated in big
cities and the coastal areas, where birth rates are low. In Europe,
the native brat-rate of many countries is something like 1.2 per
couple, far below the replacement level of 2.2. The population that's
breeding is the Muslims, but I'm not sure whether we could agree on
whether they're liberal or conservative. Since they believe in
something, I'd call them conservative.
How many kids do you have? I have two. 2nd grand-brat is due any
minute.
John
I did my part to out-distance the Liberals... 4 kids, 6 grandkids ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Good work, Thompsonizing the world.
But seriously, having kids really changes one's perspectives on lots
of things.
"As we grow older and realize more clearly the limitations of human
happiness, we come to see that the only real and abiding pleasure in
life is to give pleasure to other people."
- P. G. Wodehouse,
a genius who happened to be able to write.
John |
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Jim Thompson
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Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:11 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:15:53 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 10 Feb 2005 15:19:26 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Is your comment about the correlation between average number of
children and political opinion another one of these
folk-misconceptions, or can you point to real evidence?
How about the fact that George W. Bush is President? He didn't win new
states so much as the states he won have more electoral votes than in
past elections because their population has increased more.
My personal experience is the same. Liberals are concentrated in big
cities and the coastal areas, where birth rates are low. In Europe,
the native brat-rate of many countries is something like 1.2 per
couple, far below the replacement level of 2.2. The population that's
breeding is the Muslims, but I'm not sure whether we could agree on
whether they're liberal or conservative. Since they believe in
something, I'd call them conservative.
How many kids do you have? I have two. 2nd grand-brat is due any
minute.
John
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I did my part to out-distance the Liberals... 4 kids, 6 grandkids ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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John Larkin
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Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:11 am Post subject:
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On 10 Feb 2005 15:19:26 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
| Quote: | Is your comment about the correlation between average number of
children and political opinion another one of these
folk-misconceptions, or can you point to real evidence?
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How about the fact that George W. Bush is President? He didn't win new
states so much as the states he won have more electoral votes than in
past elections because their population has increased more.
My personal experience is the same. Liberals are concentrated in big
cities and the coastal areas, where birth rates are low. In Europe,
the native brat-rate of many countries is something like 1.2 per
couple, far below the replacement level of 2.2. The population that's
breeding is the Muslims, but I'm not sure whether we could agree on
whether they're liberal or conservative. Since they believe in
something, I'd call them conservative.
How many kids do you have? I have two. 2nd grand-brat is due any
minute.
John |
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Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:36 pm Post subject:
Re: not a bit on-topic |
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John Larkin wrote:
| Quote: | On 10 Feb 2005 15:19:26 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Is your comment about the correlation between average number of
children and political opinion another one of these
folk-misconceptions, or can you point to real evidence?
How about the fact that George W. Bush is President? He didn't win
new
states so much as the states he won have more electoral votes than in
past elections because their population has increased more.
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There is a negative correlation between fertility and education. The
eugenics movement used to get upset about it. Dubbya's anti-abortion
stance might be somewhat self-serving, if the guy ever showed any sign
of thinking further ahead than the next election.
| Quote: | My personal experience is the same. Liberals are concentrated in big
cities and the coastal areas, where birth rates are low. In Europe,
the native brat-rate of many countries is something like 1.2 per
couple, far below the replacement level of 2.2. The population that's
breeding is the Muslims, but I'm not sure whether we could agree on
whether they're liberal or conservative. Since they believe in
something, I'd call them conservative.
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The high fertility of Muslim communities correlates with the lamentable
education they offer their women - the Dutch government is now
insisting that imported brides are at least literate. Muslim females
who have grown up in Europe, and have had the benefit of the European
education system are strikingly less fertile.
| Quote: | How many kids do you have? I have two. 2nd grand-brat is due any
minute.
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No kids - but not by choice. I do have have eight nephews and nieces,
and one of the nieces now has two very young children.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen |
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John Woodgate
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Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject:
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I read in sci.electronics.design that bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote (in
<1108114578.752683.298010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>) about 'not a
bit on-topic', on Fri, 11 Feb 2005:
| Quote: | There is a negative correlation between fertility and education.
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Not 'fertility' but 'number of children'. It doesn't seem likely that
education would affect fertility negatively; in fact, since education
tends to promote health, the correlation is likely to be positive.
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The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
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Spehro Pefhany
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Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject:
Re: not a bit on-topic |
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:57:36 +0000, the renowned John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:
| Quote: | I read in sci.electronics.design that bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote (in
1108114578.752683.298010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>) about 'not a
bit on-topic', on Fri, 11 Feb 2005:
There is a negative correlation between fertility and education.
Not 'fertility' but 'number of children'. It doesn't seem likely that
education would affect fertility negatively; in fact, since education
tends to promote health, the correlation is likely to be positive.
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http://www.bartleby.com/61/80/F0088000.html
fertility
SYLLABICATION: fer·til·i·ty
PRONUNCIATION: fr-tl-t
NOUN: 1. The condition, quality, or degree of being fertile. 2. The
birthrate of a population.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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keith
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Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject:
Re: not a bit on-topic |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:15:37 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:15:53 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 15:19:26 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Is your comment about the correlation between average number of
children and political opinion another one of these
folk-misconceptions, or can you point to real evidence?
How about the fact that George W. Bush is President? He didn't win new
states so much as the states he won have more electoral votes than in
past elections because their population has increased more.
My personal experience is the same. Liberals are concentrated in big
cities and the coastal areas, where birth rates are low. In Europe,
the native brat-rate of many countries is something like 1.2 per
couple, far below the replacement level of 2.2. The population that's
breeding is the Muslims, but I'm not sure whether we could agree on
whether they're liberal or conservative. Since they believe in
something, I'd call them conservative.
How many kids do you have? I have two. 2nd grand-brat is due any
minute.
John
I did my part to out-distance the Liberals... 4 kids, 6 grandkids ;-)
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Hmm, I've never lived in a blue-state (IL, NY, and VT) and am 1 and 0.
Maybe there's something in the water?
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:08 am Post subject:
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John Larkin wrote:
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| Quote: | But the "real world" doesn't matter!
It happens to be where half your oil comes from - why do you think
you
have a massive balance of payments deficit? I hope you like cycling
to
work ....
It's so hilly here, I'd mostly be pushing the bike. But my
made-in-Mexico VW doesn't use much gas, it's a 4-mile scenic drive,
and gas is still dirt-cheap here. Three, actually, since I walk the
last mile for exercize. I spend a lot more on car insurance than I
spend on gas. Actually, it's a company car so I don't spend anything
on either, but you get my point.
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Enjoy it while it lasts - I can remember back when petrol was the least
of the costs of running a car.
For hills, you need a bike with gears - I used to cycle to and from
work in Brighton, England, which was a couple of miles. It took me
twenty minutes each way, fifteen minutes to get up the hill and five
minutes to go down the other side. I would have appreciated a tunnel.
I've still got the bike, and the original ten-speed derailler gears
have become twelve speed - although they are hardly ever useful in
Nijmegen, which is mostly flat, as opposed to the rest of the
Netherlands, which is almost entirely flat.
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Pig Bladder
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:11 am Post subject:
Re: not a bit on-topic |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:22:54 -0800, bill.sloman wrote:
| Quote: | Beauty is only skin-deep, but true boorishness comes from the heart -
or as here - from the arsehole.
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In case you'd care to check it, what comes from the arsehole is
self-preservation, AKA Love.
The boorishness, hatred, stupidity, murder, and just plain nastiness all
come from denial of The Mother Of The Universe, who is in our root chakra,
which happens to reside a the exact center of the anus/arsehole/asshole.
The denial happens in the brain, who thinks it's the boss, and sadly, gets
away with it for very many years until it kills its host.
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The Pig Bladder From Uranus, Still Waiting for
Some Hot Babe to Ask What My Favorite Planet Is. |
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Pig Bladder
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:11 am Post subject:
Re: not a bit on-topic |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:15:37 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:15:53 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 15:19:26 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Is your comment about the correlation between average number of
children and political opinion another one of these
folk-misconceptions, or can you point to real evidence?
How about the fact that George W. Bush is President? He didn't win new
states so much as the states he won have more electoral votes than in
past elections because their population has increased more.
My personal experience is the same. Liberals are concentrated in big
cities and the coastal areas, where birth rates are low. In Europe,
the native brat-rate of many countries is something like 1.2 per
couple, far below the replacement level of 2.2. The population that's
breeding is the Muslims, but I'm not sure whether we could agree on
whether they're liberal or conservative. Since they believe in
something, I'd call them conservative.
How many kids do you have? I have two. 2nd grand-brat is due any
minute.
John
I did my part to out-distance the Liberals... 4 kids, 6 grandkids ;-)
Yup. Like they've noticed, the stuipd are doing more breeding. |
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Some Hot Babe to Ask What My Favorite Planet Is. |
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Pig Bladder
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:11 am Post subject:
Re: not a bit on-topic |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:19:26 -0800, bill.sloman wrote:
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John Larkin wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 01:40:49 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Keith Williams wrote:
In article
1107973009.032130.292790@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org says...
John Larkin wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/
and even less so:
http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html
If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes,
Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now .... he did fool
enough of the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but
the real
world is less gullible.
Morris is not a Republican, yutz. He was Clinton's campaign
manager
and pollster in Arkansas and in his first administration (not that
he
has any love for Hillary). Apparently you are that gullible, but
don't get a vote.
I think you mean that Morris is not a Republican yet - he might have
been a southern democrat (that is, a republican by inclination but
culturally barred from coming out of the closet) when he was
Clinton's
campaign manager in Arkansas, but he's a Republican in all but name
these days.
"If you're not liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If
you're
not conservative when you're old, you have no brains."
What's interesting to me is that people do tend to get more
conservative as they get older, concurrent with their concerns
shifting from themselves to their kids and grandkids. Old liberals
tend to be childless. One of the important demographics in the US is
that liberals aren't breeding.
IIRR there was an academic study that found that people don't get more
conservative as they get older - they actually tend to stick to same
political opinions all their lives. In times past society as a whole
was more conservative, so the elderly did tend to be more conservative
than young people, but this may be a passing phase.
Is your comment about the correlation between average number of
children and political opinion another one of these
folk-misconceptions, or can you point to real evidence?
Well, it's pretty obvious that the stupid ones are breeding like rats. |
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Paul Burke
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject:
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bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
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I used to cycle to and from
work in Brighton, England, which was a couple of miles. It took me
twenty minutes each way, fifteen minutes to get up the hill and five
minutes to go down the other side.
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Via Ditchling Beacon? That was the killer when I used to do the London
to Brighton charity ride- right at the end too.
Paul Burke |
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:36 pm Post subject:
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Paul Burke wrote:
| Quote: | bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
I used to cycle to and from
work in Brighton, England, which was a couple of miles. It took me
twenty minutes each way, fifteen minutes to get up the hill and
five
minutes to go down the other side.
Via Ditchling Beacon? That was the killer when I used to do the
London
to Brighton charity ride - right at the end too.
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No way. My wife lived in Ditchling before we bought a house together in
Brighton, so I've driven along that road many times.
I just cycled from Preston about two miles up through Hollingbury,
which peaks at 178 metres - Ditchling Beacon goes up to about 233
metres, and if I'd cycled from Ditchling it would have been about four
miles. When we were (briefly) living together in Ditchling I was
working in Hove and cycling wasn't a practical option.
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