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John Larkin
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html


John

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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:16 am    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:


http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html


If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes, Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now .... he did fool enough of
the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but the real world
is less gullible.

--------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Keith Williams
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

In article <1107973009.032130.292790@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org says...
Quote:

John Larkin wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:


http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html

If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes, Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now .... he did fool enough of
the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but the real world
is less gullible.

Morris is not a Republican, yutz. He was Clinton's campaign manager
and pollster in Arkansas and in his first administration (not that he
has any love for Hillary). Apparently you are that gullible, but don't
get a vote.

--
Keith

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Rob Gaddi
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:07 am    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

Keith Williams wrote:
Quote:
In article <1107973009.032130.292790@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org says...

John Larkin wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:



http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html

If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes, Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now .... he did fool enough of
the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but the real world
is less gullible.


Morris is not a Republican, yutz. He was Clinton's campaign manager
and pollster in Arkansas and in his first administration (not that he
has any love for Hillary). Apparently you are that gullible, but don't
get a vote.

Regardless of the fact that his career highlight was as Clinton's

campaign manager, Morris has always been a mercenary with a generally
conservative bent. He's handled substantially more Republican
candidates than Democrates, which was the reason for all the concern
when Clinton first picked him over proven winners like Bob Shrum.

After the prostitute scandal a few years back Morris pulled hard right
trying to regain some credibility. He and the Clintons haven't had a
nice word to say about each other for a good long while now.
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Tom Del Rosso
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote in
message news:9tjk01tfentdi226pf0ssu451inqkg5kbq@4ax.com...
Quote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

This is even better:

http://www.roundmountaingroup.net/possible/fidora.htm

"With a twin strategy of abandoning high margin businesses or selling them
to competitors; and acquiring struggling companies in low margin industries
at exorbitant premiums, she was able to execute one of the great turnarounds
in corporate history."


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Michael A. Terrell
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

John Larkin wrote:
Quote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

John

I like this version better! :)

http://www.everythingispossible.com/

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John Larkin
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

On 9 Feb 2005 10:16:49 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

Quote:

John Larkin wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:


http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html

If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes,

He's a Clintonista. But he doesn't like Hillary because he worked
closely with her for years.

Quote:
Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now

You mean, re-elected with a controlling majority in both the House and
the Senate and a bunch of Supremes about to retire?

Quote:
.... he did fool enough of
the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but the real world
is less gullible.

But the "real world" doesn't matter!

John
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John Larkin
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:30 am    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:35:23 GMT, "Tom Del Rosso"
<ng01@att.net.invalid> wrote:


Quote:
This is even better:

http://www.roundmountaingroup.net/possible/fidora.htm

"With a twin strategy of abandoning high margin businesses or selling them
to competitors; and acquiring struggling companies in low margin industries
at exorbitant premiums, she was able to execute one of the great turnarounds
in corporate history."

Great analysis!

John
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On 9 Feb 2005 10:16:49 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:


John Larkin wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:



http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html

If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes,

He's a Clintonista. But he doesn't like Hillary because he worked
closely with her for years.

Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now

You mean, re-elected with a controlling majority in both the House
and
the Senate and a bunch of Supremes about to retire?

That just gives him the option of screwing up on an even larger scale -
I was thinking of massive budget deficit, massive balance of payments
deficit, stuck in Irak without an exit strategy, and having his
knuckles rapped by the courts on his attitude to indefinite detention
without trial for anybody who gets picked up in anti-terrorist sweeps.
Quote:

.... he did fool enough of
the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but the real
world
is less gullible.

But the "real world" doesn't matter!

It happens to be where half your oil comes from - why do you think you
have a massive balance of payments deficit? I hope you like cycling to
work ....

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

Keith Williams wrote:
Quote:
In article <1107973009.032130.292790@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org says...

John Larkin wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:



http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html

If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes, Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now .... he did fool
enough of
the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but the real
world
is less gullible.

Morris is not a Republican, yutz. He was Clinton's campaign manager
and pollster in Arkansas and in his first administration (not that he

has any love for Hillary). Apparently you are that gullible, but
don't
get a vote.

I think you mean that Morris is not a Republican yet - he might have
been a southern democrat (that is, a republican by inclination but
culturally barred from coming out of the closet) when he was Clinton's
campaign manager in Arkansas, but he's a Republican in all but name
these days.

As usual, it is your gullibility that is showing.

---------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Richard the Dreaded Liber
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:54:38 -0800, bill.sloman wrote:

Quote:

John Larkin wrote:
On 9 Feb 2005 10:16:49 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:


John Larkin wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:



http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html

If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes,

He's a Clintonista. But he doesn't like Hillary because he worked
closely with her for years.

Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now

You mean, re-elected with a controlling majority in both the House
and
the Senate and a bunch of Supremes about to retire?

That just gives him the option of screwing up on an even larger scale -
I was thinking of massive budget deficit, massive balance of payments
deficit, stuck in Irak without an exit strategy, and having his
knuckles rapped by the courts on his attitude to indefinite detention
without trial for anybody who gets picked up in anti-terrorist sweeps.

.... he did fool enough of
the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but the real
world
is less gullible.

But the "real world" doesn't matter!

It happens to be where half your oil comes from - why do you think you
have a massive balance of payments deficit? I hope you like cycling to
work ....


It's the standard dysfunction syndrome - don't acknowledge reality until
it takes you all the way down.

Unfortunately, this time, there are millions of people who are going to
get taken down right along with them.

Unless, of course, they should happen to clue up.

Good Luck!
Rich
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John Larkin
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

On 10 Feb 2005 00:54:38 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

Quote:

John Larkin wrote:
On 9 Feb 2005 10:16:49 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:


John Larkin wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:



http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html

If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes,

He's a Clintonista. But he doesn't like Hillary because he worked
closely with her for years.

Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now

You mean, re-elected with a controlling majority in both the House
and
the Senate and a bunch of Supremes about to retire?

That just gives him the option of screwing up on an even larger scale -
I was thinking of massive budget deficit, massive balance of payments
deficit, stuck in Irak without an exit strategy, and having his
knuckles rapped by the courts on his attitude to indefinite detention
without trial for anybody who gets picked up in anti-terrorist sweeps.

Jockeying between the courts and the other two branches of this
government is continual. It's by design, actually. To my taste, the
courts have been too accommodating in this respect; nobody should be
held without due process of law. I'm surprised the courts haven't
insisted on this.



Quote:
.... he did fool enough of
the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but the real
world
is less gullible.

But the "real world" doesn't matter!

It happens to be where half your oil comes from - why do you think you
have a massive balance of payments deficit? I hope you like cycling to
work ....


It's so hilly here, I'd mostly be pushing the bike. But my
made-in-Mexico VW doesn't use much gas, it's a 4-mile scenic drive,
and gas is still dirt-cheap here. Three, actually, since I walk the
last mile for exercize. I spend a lot more on car insurance than I
spend on gas. Actually, it's a company car so I don't spend anything
on either, but you get my point.

John
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John Larkin
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

On 10 Feb 2005 01:40:49 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

Quote:

Keith Williams wrote:
In article <1107973009.032130.292790@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org says...

John Larkin wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:



http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html

If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes, Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now .... he did fool
enough of
the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but the real
world
is less gullible.

Morris is not a Republican, yutz. He was Clinton's campaign manager
and pollster in Arkansas and in his first administration (not that he

has any love for Hillary). Apparently you are that gullible, but
don't
get a vote.

I think you mean that Morris is not a Republican yet - he might have
been a southern democrat (that is, a republican by inclination but
culturally barred from coming out of the closet) when he was Clinton's
campaign manager in Arkansas, but he's a Republican in all but name
these days.


"If you're not liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're
not conservative when you're old, you have no brains."

What's interesting to me is that people do tend to get more
conservative as they get older, concurrent with their concerns
shifting from themselves to their kids and grandkids. Old liberals
tend to be childless. One of the important demographics in the US is
that liberals aren't breeding.

John
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Jim Thompson
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:00:53 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

Quote:
On 10 Feb 2005 01:40:49 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:


Keith Williams wrote:
In article <1107973009.032130.292790@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org says...

John Larkin wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:



http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html

If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes, Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now .... he did fool
enough of
the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but the real
world
is less gullible.

Morris is not a Republican, yutz. He was Clinton's campaign manager
and pollster in Arkansas and in his first administration (not that he

has any love for Hillary). Apparently you are that gullible, but
don't
get a vote.

I think you mean that Morris is not a Republican yet - he might have
been a southern democrat (that is, a republican by inclination but
culturally barred from coming out of the closet) when he was Clinton's
campaign manager in Arkansas, but he's a Republican in all but name
these days.


"If you're not liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're
not conservative when you're old, you have no brains."

What's interesting to me is that people do tend to get more
conservative as they get older, concurrent with their concerns
shifting from themselves to their kids and grandkids. Old liberals
tend to be childless. One of the important demographics in the US is
that liberals aren't breeding.

John

Yup. Bill and Hillary's kid is butt ugly... we can only hope ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: not a bit on-topic Reply with quote

John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On 10 Feb 2005 01:40:49 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:


Keith Williams wrote:
In article
1107973009.032130.292790@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org says...

John Larkin wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/09/carly_fiorina_goes/

and even less so:




http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/020905.html

If Rice were as good as that particular republican believes,
Dubbya
wouldn't have got into the mess he is in now .... he did fool
enough of the U.S. electorate to just win the last election, but
the real
world is less gullible.

Morris is not a Republican, yutz. He was Clinton's campaign
manager
and pollster in Arkansas and in his first administration (not that
he
has any love for Hillary). Apparently you are that gullible, but
don't get a vote.

I think you mean that Morris is not a Republican yet - he might have
been a southern democrat (that is, a republican by inclination but
culturally barred from coming out of the closet) when he was
Clinton's
campaign manager in Arkansas, but he's a Republican in all but name
these days.


"If you're not liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If
you're
not conservative when you're old, you have no brains."

What's interesting to me is that people do tend to get more
conservative as they get older, concurrent with their concerns
shifting from themselves to their kids and grandkids. Old liberals
tend to be childless. One of the important demographics in the US is
that liberals aren't breeding.

IIRR there was an academic study that found that people don't get more
conservative as they get older - they actually tend to stick to same
political opinions all their lives. In times past society as a whole
was more conservative, so the elderly did tend to be more conservative
than young people, but this may be a passing phase.

Is your comment about the correlation between average number of
children and political opinion another one of these
folk-misconceptions, or can you point to real evidence?

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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